Weekend Links, 10-11 July, 2021

Welcome to the EZFKA Weekend Links for the 10-11 July, 2021! This week we are all about bad propaganda. Why?

Because as a viable economic unit within EZFKA, the least the system could provide me a good propaganda. I mean, is that too much to ask? If you are going to steal, lie, kill, maim, drug etc etc the population, is it too much to ask for the quality of the propaganda to be … well, quality.

I ask you, is it too much to ask for? Well, maybe, or maybe the system is not longer able to tell bull-dust from reality. Which is a scary scenario, so we are going to go back to pretending its just the propaganda that is bad.

Hopefully you enjoy the links this weekend!


~~Bad Propaganda For The Week~~

Ben Garrison provides context as he so often does… what is bad propaganda?

The Wizard Of Fraud

Contestant Number #1 – Our friends at change.org, you know they are fair and unbiased after all!

Contestand Number #2 – QAnon isn’t just anti-semetic, its also racist!

Contestant Number #3 – MeToo! honorable mention, featuring Deep State Shenanigans

Contestant Number #4 – Men are better at being women, than women?

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner – Babylon Bee swoops in and takes the prize!


~~Mom Starts Wearing a Fake Beard For Love~~

Watch for the bit where the cat starts to snuggle up with her, cause the cat thinks its her partner. Then the bloke walks in, and the cat shits itself!


~~Why The Media Sucks~~

New York Times being fair and balanced!

Links:

What Does Putin Say?

~~Talking Fish For The Win~~

I’m not talking abut the media, honest! This is actually about talking big brain energy fish.


~~AusPol~~

Its not as good, but was still funny.

Links:


~~Martin North Has Competition~~

Louis Rossman wanders around NYC and its a bit of a shit hole…


~~Covid Shenanigans For The Week~~

Chrome Dome Fights The Good Fight

Links:

Babylon Bee Fighting The Good Fight

~~BardCore For The Win~~

Beedle The Bardcore – Gasta’s Paradise


~~American Civil War~~

Mmmm… Old Dick!

Links:

Spoon Bending Kid Is On The Money

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~~Monkey See, Monkey Do~~

If you have any poo, fling it now!

So (1) the first monkey sees people, and imitates them by sitting on the seat; (2) then the second monkey tries to avoid dealing with the first monkey, by looking at his phone – because clearly that will work


~~Markets Being Markets~~

Links:

The free market, or something like that…

~~Have a Good Weekend~~

And one more…

P.S. I’m debating doing a series on leftists regretting the vax. Let me know in the comments if you would like an overdose of schadenfreude!

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Sacha

Repent you Covid heathen!

Well done again T, so much content.

Have a good weekend all.

Weekend Bonus:
When nature calls…
https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1411776188104822786

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ThePensum

I took the L line a couple of times. didn’t much appreciate it. but never saw that lol.

ThePensum

reminds me of David Byrne’s (Talking Heads) memoir about living in alphabet city (lower east side) in the late 70s and 80s when the city was basically bankrupt.
ppl would idolize the ‘bohemian lifestyle’. his retort: there’s nothing artistic or bohemian about living in a place where you can witness a homeless black guy taking a dump in the center isle of a 711

Stewie

Doesn’t seem to be a lot of diversity with regards to people’s stereotype expectations of who is doing the public shitting.

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Sacha

Did you watch the clip?

https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1411776188104822786

You can really see how ‘relieved’ he is. 😂

Stewie

I’ve generally found stereotypes to be fairly accurate. They’re generally a good heuristic short cut that is safer erroring on than trying to prove the exception.

The90kwbeast

Yes. It is almost common sense really that people judge situations and people on the basis of probability from past behaviour or common knowledge instead of exception.

Stereotypes all had to come from somewhere at the end of the day, if something is true even 60% of the time it lets you as an individual keep that back of mind that it is more likely than not to occur.

Yes, one should try and not jump to conclusions & consider whatever it is in front of you for the merit it presents, but it takes a lot of energy to undo that initial thought process.

Sacha

Terrible.

And who is going to take the risk of opening a shop when at any time they can call another ’emergency’.

He estimated one space at $75k a month rent.
that’s $2.5k a day has to come in just to cover rent.

Watched Bowral, terrible.

That Canadian clip about continuing the injunctions against public gatherings but now to stop the spread of ‘unauthorised information’ is an absolute mind-bender of authoritarian overreach. WTF!

Gouda

Government/Media links even more obvious. Don’t trust Border Force.
https://twitter.com/stephendziedzic/status/1413261058127450115

No increase in Pfizer jabs confirmed by Pfizer. It does say something when big pharma appears to be more trustworthy than the government.
https://twitter.com/rachelmealey/status/1413281542982434817

Is it time to invest in hairpieces?
https://twitter.com/SlurrieFamily/status/1413120036881895425

Coming

LET

IT

RIP

The90kwbeast

Lock. Us. Down!

It’s the only way… we’re told.

Winning@Failing

You are a cunt.

bjw678

Sooner or later it will get out. We will never restrict enough to stop it forever.
Is it worth a decade of lockdowns to then have it get out and rip anyway?

Chinese Astroturfer

We can only hope. Only way out of this mess and give up the silly border restrictions.

Gouda

A drink for everyone in NSW doing the lockdown.

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Coming

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_clusters_in_Australia

have a look here at the huge number of “covid deaths” arising from nursing home clusters

by just eyeballing it has to be the majority of Covid deaths in the country (only 910, 820 of which were in Victoria under the watchful stewardship of dictator Dan)

maybe someone can run the stats

the mortality at newmarch house was 50% for instance

why have we not just locked down nursing homes?
and meals on wheels for the rest of the oldies still at home

the rest of us could have got on with it , and would now be immune

Coming

https://www.health.gov.au/news/health-alerts/novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-health-alert/coronavirus-covid-19-case-numbers-and-statistics

20,000 cases in under 50yos in Australia (probably wildly underestimated since only a complete fuckwit would get tested)

5 deaths in under 50yos

0.02% CFR
IFR must be 0.002%

Fully 67% of Australia’s population is under 50 years of age

that is 67% of the population being needlessly held hostage

Sacha

67% of the population now seems to suffer from Stockholm syndrome and loving that jack-boot stomping on their face.

The90kwbeast

I somewhat agree however even the elderly and those at risk with pre-existing medical conditions still haven’t received x2 injections due to Scomo betting the house on AZ, which has now blown up in his face.

I think another few months of vaccines in arms for those most at risk and I’d be fully on board with your point of view.

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Coming

Now explain : Why do I have to lockdown ? Or get a vaccine

why don’t we just lockdown everyone over the age of 50 – force them to stay in their homes and have people in hazmat suits drop off food outside their door

why the fuck is my life being ruined by this when I have nothing to gain

The90kwbeast

Because there are those with other medical conditions, it’s not just over 50. Also turns out, we’re a fat fuck country so really you would have to:

  1. Lockdown everyone over 50 and
  2. Lockdown everyone with a BMI say >35 and
  3. Lockdown everyone with any pre-existing medical conditions and
  4. On it goes

It’d be half of Sydney, impossible to politically administrate, so it’s easier to just lockdown everyone.

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Coming

Or let anyone who chooses to lockdown do so

ya know

free will and personal responsibility and all that

like we do with cigarettes and alcohol and stuffing your face with chips etc

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The90kwbeast

But that analogy doesn’t work because if I become an alcoholic, the impact on others is near zero. Out of your examples smoking is the only one that is really applicable, but is still many orders of magnitude less dangerous than Covid being spread. If I smoke near someone, they don’t immediately get lung cancer or reduced lung capacity days later etc.

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Coming

no I think you are not using your brain

if you want to lockdown you can – then you’re safe

if you don’t want to lockdown – then you’re exposing yourself to risk

it’s precisely the same as cigarettes and alcohol and fatty food

by the way, the CFR for under 50s is 0.02% as a whole
that includes those who are obese or have medical issues

the IFR is probably a fraction of that

and for healthy , slim people under 50?

it’s zero

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Winning@Failing

Retard

The90kwbeast

Ok so let’s say you run with your approach, a stack of people become sick who chose not to lockdown, and clog up the hospitals like WAF says, then you are in a car accident and need ICU but can’t get receive treatment in time. Then what?
Hospitalisation matters as much as deaths.

Also your belief in the individual doing the right thing is pretty high. Can’t see people voluntarily locking down whilst everyone else goes about their lives.

And how do you enforce your even more fake lockdown than what is presently in place?

Under your semi let it rip approach there are 2nd order consequences that can so easily blow up in your face is my point.

The shared sacrifice option is still for now the least worst and most fairest option, but by Xmas or thereabouts with more vaccinations it’s time to move on from lockdowns.

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Coming

We aren’t even close to that point and never will be

the authorities moved on from that story a long time ago

the joke I am making is that flattening the curve and hammer and dance are never even heard of now

no health service in the western world ever reached that point after the first few months because masks, PPE etc are now widely available

all those emergency hospital facilities have been closed – and they were never used once

The90kwbeast

“We aren’t even close to that point and never will be”

On what basis would you draw that conclusion? Hope or luck? Why wouldn’t Delta rip through Australia like it has in every other country that is mostly unvaccinated? It’s already proving very difficult to slow it down – whilst Sydney is in a lockdown (fake lockdown but nonetheless).

In every other country, the Delta variant has $*%cked them right up. Other developed countries have also had vaccines more readily available for months to support/protect their population so it’s hardly a fair like for like comparison.

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bjw678

So do we keep locking down as we approach Zulu variant or alpha alpha, or alpha zulu?
Common flu constantly mutates, it’s why it’s always around. Covid will most likely be the same. How many years of lockdowns are you prepared to endure for “safety”, 2, 5, 50?
Or should we accept it’s never going away and live with it?

The90kwbeast

Agreed it’s never going away but the prudent thing to do is continue to vaccinate the most vulnerable of society until we’re better covered. All darts on a board really but the 80% target is a pipedream, I would have thought 30-40% of the population receiving both shots with 60%+ receiving one shot is probably plenty enough to wave goodbye to lockdowns.

stagmal

“But that analogy doesn’t work because if I become an alcoholic, the impact on others is near zero”

no way, alcohol is a socially devastating drug. it has an incalculable negative impact on society.

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The90kwbeast

A smallish % of people are badly affected over the long term due to their personal choices, for the majority of people it’s totally fine. This is why it’s legal in the majority of countries? And me having a beer doesn’t directly impact other people, unless I’m a total fuckwhit about it all socially, health wise partially agree if you over do it longer term, but it’s still an order of magnitude better than say, smoking, and Covid.

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Winning@Failing

Hospital capacity.

This has not changed for the entire pandemic yet you keep carrying on like a fuckwit. Sick people fill up hospitals, old/vulnerable people aren’t the only one’s requiring hospitalisation.

Your failure to grasp this most basic of concepts is why you were derided over at MB and why you should be derided here.

I say again you are cunt but would like to add to that – you are a stupid cunt. For fuck sake you are an idiot.

Coming

Ah yes, flatten the curve

Whatever happened to that ?

did we get all the ventilators we needed ?
18 months should have been plenty of time

and if we let 67% of Australia’s population mingle
= 16 million

let’s say 50% catch it
= 8 million

IFR 0.002%
=160 people

you think that might overwhelm the hospital system ?

which of us is the moron ?

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Winning@Failing

You, always have been and always will be.

Coming

Or who remembers “hammer and the dance”

that all the morons over at em bee were so enthralled by in early 2020

written by that “tech entrepreneur”

I was assured by DLS and the lock us down crew that this was gospel

Winning@Failing

It has worked several times in Australia. What hasn’t worked is the fed govt insisting on being incompetent fuckwits. We only needed one hammer and dance and then adequate deployment of vaccines to those that want it and then steady opening up until pandemic has run its course.

What is your realistic timeframe for a global pandemic to run its course and everyone to go back to BAU? Letting it rip sans initial lockdowns and vaccines for those that want them will not let you get back to BAU as soon as it think you will.

Coming

Anyone over 50 who wanted a vaccine could have got one already

there was plenty of astra Zeneca to go around

but fucking boomers weren’t happy with a 1 in a million chance of venous sinus thrombosis so we all have to go back to lockdown while they wait for Pfizer which theyve been assured is soo much better

by the way hammer and dance and flatten the curve was never about waiting for vaccines

it was about masks and ventilators

18 months ago it was unfathomable that a safe and effective vaccine could be prepared in less than 12 months

hmmmm 🤔

Winning@Failing

It’s about managing numbers, always has been always will be. How do you not understand this?

Masks, ventilators , vaccines, treatments etc are ancillary.

As per vaccine, isn’t everyone actually waiting for novavax?

bjw678

It’s about managing numbers, always has been always will be. How do you not understand this?

What management? It is about delaying the inevitable if they keep up the way they are currently.

bjw678

until it rips the pandemic doesn’t go away. This is the uncomfortable truth no one wants to admit.

The90kwbeast

No, until enough of the most vulnerable is vaccinated and the rest just live with it, that’s when it ends.

bjw678

 the rest just live with it, that’s when it ends.

This is truth, but vaccines will be nowhere near ass effective as you think they will. Currently vaxed people are in hospital as well as unvaxed.

Winning@Failing

You say this with certainty but have zero proof. Unhinged irrationality. You are a fuckin ranting spastic. Saturday, Queensport, knuckle sandwich buffet, come have a feed.

bjw678

Unless you are running a controlled spread through the country hospital capacity will ALWAYS be a problem.
Sooner or later an outbreak will get real, just like it has everywhere else in the world, and the capacity will still be overwhelmed then. The current plan does NOTHING to fix this.

Winning@Failing

Are you actually retarded?

bjw678

Can you make any sort of argument or just say shit fuck cunt retard spaz lolololololol

Actually Im beginning to think you actually have a real learning disability, so maybe I shouldn’t make fun of you anymore.

canuckdownunder

Why even lock them down? Seriously, the median length of a stay in an aged care facility is about 9 months. For men it’s about 5 months. People go into them to die. Yet we’re supposed to sacrifice our lives to keep these dying people hanging on for a few more months?

Winning@Failing

“…and would now be immune”.

Missed this bit yesterday. You sure about that?

LostSocialist

I don’t agree that aged care should be locked down. The reason for this is that nearly everyone in aged care is going to die within a couple of years anyway and therefore if they are locked down a lot will die lonely deaths isolated from loved ones.
Also people should be able to determine the risks they face for themselves and if the few ones that still have their marbles were asked if they wanted to be locked down for a year or take the risk of contracting covid, they would have to be insane to choose the latter option.
All that being said the government could still reduce the risk to care homes by taking simple measures such as ensuring they weren’t all staffed by dodgy migrants earning significantly less than minimum wage while working 5 different jobs to get by.

LostSocialist

I meant former not latter in the above post.

Stewie

Good links T – had a read of that the honey trap used against Assange. I was aware that she had connections to the CIA, in fact that was about the only reason I supported Assange and believed the Aust Govt should provided assistance. Apart from that I thought he was mainly narcissistic, self aggrandizing, cyber marxist. I have far, far more respect for Snowden.

With regard to the options, I’ve found you can never buy long dated options far enough out, to match the theta that quibbling, time delay not to mention corrupt politicians generate while making a Govt ‘decision’.

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Peachy

Some months ago somebody (you? Freddy?) shared a link to an awesome humorous tale/blog post (fictional) about how some dude’s option trading attempts and how he got shaken down due to not understanding the greeks.

(if I recall correctly one of the episodes is how he bought puts over a company rightly anticipating that it would default on its debts. But when it did, equity didn’t go to zero as he had imagined it would & he got rekt 🤣)

Stewie

That sounds vaguely familiar – the twittersphere is resplendent with such stories.
If you want to lose your money fast, trade stocks. If you want to lose your money really fast, trade options.

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Sacha

And if you want to see your money simply disappear in a puff of smoke trade CFDs. 😲

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Freddy

It wasn’t me. I might have posted a video link on some idiot traders but that about it.

Agree with Stewie on Options. They are the realm of time decay insurance calculations. Hedge fund mathematicians vs mug punters. Decide which of those two categories you fit into.

Disagree with Sacha on CFDs. People get burnt because they don’t understand how much leverage they are using.

Sacha

And that’s why your money will disappear in a puff of smoke if you don’t know what you are doing trading CFDs Freddy.

I use almost exclusively CFDs, I like the leverage they give me and I use it to my advantage. But it took me a while to learn trading them and it cost me money in the beginning. The market will extract a tuition fee from you while it is educating you.

Everything I am contributing here only comes from my own experience. Whatever works for you or Stewie or anybody else is good too. I just wouldn’t recommend CFDs to newbie traders.

There are 1000s of different ways of making money, and millions of ways of losing money. As long as we can help each other here to avoid making some mistakes all for the better.

Ramjet

The average person does not understand leverage. So many cases like Storm financial where people did not understand that they had margin loans on leveraged positions. Unless people understand how it works and have capacity to make margin or mark to market calls, they really shouldn’t be playing around with leverage.

Sacha

This is all true.

That’s what I mean with the pool full of sharks.
It’s buyer beware. If people want to trade something that they don’t even understand or did 5 minutes of due diligence on and then decide to put their money on the line they will get taken to the cleaners.

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Freddy

I also learnt some lessons. That was the basis of my articles a few weeks back. Not necessarily getting burnt but more spinning my wheels because I didn’t fully appreciate Leverage Decay.

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robert2013

I have been trying to learn trading for years. It’s bloody hard! I end up making only small profits overall. Can you recommend any good books? Edit: scrolled down and saw your recommendation. Thanks. On it.

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Sacha

I don’t know much about options T.

You can set up a trading account with your bank for Aussie market. For Aussie options have to apply separately, but very limited choice. If you want to trade US securities you’ll have to apply for separate USD account again, not sure if can do US options.

If you are interested in trading I would start simple with Aussie market just to get a feel for it. Also can try a demo account but in my opinion this doesn’t work because have to feel the personal emotion of profit/loss wit real money.
You can buy Aussie ETFs to go long or short the US market e.g. BetaShares:

https://www.betashares.com.au/learn/australias-home-of-etf-investing/

But if I were you I would be very careful going short, there is too much BTFD (Buy The Fucking Dip) going on. Most traders know that if the market drops the Fed panics and do some ‘easing’ or jawboning so every time there is a 1-2% drop the dip will be bought and you will get slaughtered, especially on leveraged trades like options.

Also start reading some books on trading to find out which style might best fit your personality and lifestyle i.e. how much time do you want to spend a week on trading. I liked the Market Wizards series from Jack Schwager. He interviews successful traders that all have a very different way of getting money from the market.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Jack+Schwager&ref=nb_sb_noss

The90kwbeast

Yes. In other words, picking market tops & trying to short them is for chumps. You’re literally betting against the house.

Sacha

I stopped shorting a long time ago.

Only when there is panic selling and massive liquidations like in Feb/March 2020 (Covid panic) it is worthwhile and frankly very easy to make money going short.

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Sacha

And yes, picking market tops and/or bottoms is a mugs game.

You’re always betting against the house as a retail trader.

A good analogy is that you are trying to pick up pennies from the bottom of a swimming pool that is full of sharks.

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Ramjet

If you are a Retail trader or day trader, you are only making your broker richer. Additionally you are betting against professionals who have better access to information. The information asymmetry is why I recommend your average person to invest for long term. I have no issues with people trading in penny stocks or pink sheets as long as it is not the majority of your capital.

Freddy

IMO if you treat it as binary either way (all-in long or short) you will eventually get burnt. Hence the need to adjust trade size based on volatility + insurance against a catastrophic event.

The90kwbeast

I’d go one step further and say trading is for chumps. Anyone not in the top 10% of all traders or whatever the stats are loses money so why bother competing with the smartest people in the world with the best algos and information on hand.

Best advice for the average Joe is buy the dip.

Freddy

This is true. One way or another it ends up being theft of workers’ savings. Either by the government through inflation, or by fund managers gambling your money and taking a clip, or lose it gambling yourself.

Sacha

The problem is that people think that trading is easy, it’s not. When I started I thought it was easy too, I was a chump.

Then you realise it’s going to take 2-3 years at least to even get a basic understanding. Most people will already have given up longe before that.

You are right with your 90% of traders lose money.
All you have to do is persevere and keep learning from your mistakes. Then you can also be part of the 10%.

You then have your financial future in your own hands, I think the reward is very much worth the struggle.

robert2013

…and a valuable skill to teach your kids which they can use to survive anywhere.

Sacha

Hi Robert, you asked for book recommendations.
The Jack Schwager books are not going to specifically teach you how to trade, just different styles of trading. Although some people give good tips.

When I started I had a look at where I could learn. I found that no one is going to tell you how to do it. If you go on YouTube or internet there are 1000s of people that will ‘teach’ you if you pay XXX a month. I wouldn’t trust any of them.
Although YouTube is a good source for finding out about basic technical analysis, fundamental analysis, options, ETFs, CFDs et cetera.

In the end I found that the best way is read a lot, listen to traders e.g. Chat with traders:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdnzT5Tl6pAkATOiDsPhqcg/videos

And try to learn from their mistakes. Although my own experience is that you will still make those exact mistakes anyway 😂

Bottom line, you have to do it yourself, no one is going to tell you. Keep learning and honing your skills. If you find one set-up that works you can make money.

Patience is also very important. Don’t try to force money out of the market but let the market come to you.

The90kwbeast

I tip my hat to you sir if you’re consistently profitable over any say 6-12 month timeframe. Well done.

I did well on crypto but tend to only breakeven on my share trading, basically I use some TA now to support entry positions but now hold long term once I buy so I can actually make money.

Sacha

Beast, I still have bad periods in trading.
But the good thing is even in the bad periods I’m no longer losing money, just playing even.

I’m quite restricted because at the moment I only trade Nasdaq and S&P futures through CFDs.
I also have my SMSF but that is more an investment account of course. It might surprise you that a big part of my SMSF is in physical gold and silver.

I’ve been trading for 6 years now, CFDs for 3 years and I am still learning every day. Honing my skill how to get better entry and exit points.

If you’re looking at investing for long term, only look at a bigger timeframe, say a weekly. And then wait for the market/stock to have a significant dip before you buy in.

It’s a long road but you’ll get there in the end if you keep going beast. Good luck!

Sacha

👍🏼

Also if you’re looking for a charting platform I would recommend you have a look at TradingView:

https://www.tradingview.com

The Pro subscription cost USD 155 a year. Aussie ASX market data feed cost USD 18 a month.

It’s cheap but good and easy to use. It’s web based so can also use at work or while traveling on any computer with internet connection. Also have the phone/tablet app of course. Also have a lot of other free data feeds and a lot of cryptos on there too.

I didn’t like the trading platforms that banks provide but maybe you do.

Other people here might have other options for you to look at.

Good luck on your journey T!

Please remember to visit us humble peasants at EZFKA every now and then when you are a millionaire trader. 😉

Sacha

Ya forgot to say, if you really have the urge to buy US tech put options and that’s all you want to do just go for it.
Your bank will sort you out.

robert2013

Buy the puts, but limit the possible loss. There are many approaches to doing this.

Stewie

In Ireland that have a different version of our EZFKA Corporatocracy, the NGOcracy:

“An organisation – charity, NGO, whatever – that works to house the homeless is really good. An organisation that works to “advocate” for the homeless is maybe ok, depending on what advocacy means. An organisation that takes big bag of government money to advocate for the homeless by lobbying the government to relax immigration enforcement or introduce hate speech laws is really, really bad.

The last one is really what I mean by NGO – an organisation paid substantially from the public purse to press for social and cultural change that may not be in anyone’s interests other than their own; and which is in any case often ludicrously distant from their core mission. The practical function of this type of NGO is in a process I call Consensus Laundering.

This means is using the mechanisms of government, the press and NGOs to reach a pre-determined outcome with a veneer of democracy, so as to present changes to culture and society as driven from the bottom-up rather than top-down.

https://fitzfromdublin.substack.com/p/on-ngocracy

Consensus Laundering. A good term one which I think is equally applicable to EZFKA’s Corporatocracy and all our “Institutes” manufacturing consent and giving the appearance of legitimacy, to what in reality is a form of tyranny being imposed on society.

It takes very little further investigation in regards to the nature, executive and management structure and donor lists for these NGO’s, to work out where the main cultural globalist viewpoints are coming from.

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Peachy

Ah, that’s a very good couple of paragraphs, Stewie. Very interesting.

I think I know where you’re going with the very last bit, and it ain’t sub Saharan….

Stewie

The “NGOs” have simply weaponised sub-Saharans…imho they also fetishize them too.

This is apparent when you look at the way the US media has refocused on them as simultaneously the most deprived Americans as a group identity and the main generators of American culture. A couple generations ago it was the more rightfully aggrieved Native American Indians who were the media’s main focus on oppression, and recipients of social justice concerns.

Sadly Native American Indians life outcomes are immeasurably worse than most African Americans, and have gotten far worse in recent years, inversely tracking the accent of the sob story surrounding African Americans.

Why is this so? A cynic might observe that having an aggrieved, low median IQ minority living in the cities and urban areas is a far more handy political weapon than a broken and demoralized indigenous community living in the countryside.

But then DLS called me a Fascist for daring to suggest as much.

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Ramjet

DLS represents the worst of the left: an acid tongue that can’t take criticism. The same applies for the Members of Em Bee. Most can not take any criticism.

Winning@Failing

Is it any different here? Genuinely intrigued how you perceive the behaviour of all the out and proud “not left” people that make up this “community”.

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stagmal

it’s pretty different given we havent banned anybody

Winning@Failing

That’s not answering the whole question and you also aren’t Ramjet.

Ramjet

No one has been banned here and we are not consistently harassed for not subscribing or told that we are an astroturfer.
As for behaviour, it really depends on how much freedom you want people to have. Not many people respond well to criticism, but if you ban or harass the critics you end up with an echo chamber.
EmBee actually pretty much went feral at Peter Fraser, ResearchTime, 3d1k and others.

Sacha

True.

Goes way back to the Rockefeller, Mellon families etc.

Using our own money agains us to undermine our own society.

So crafty.

Ramjet

Everyone wants a society that falls into their ideology. Unfortunately, those influential people could fleece our money to do just that.

Sacha

Agree, but Stewie’s point I think was that what we’re dealing with here is a hostile elite that wants to change and undermine the existing society beyond recognition, as opposed to a benevolent elite that wants to build on and expand further the society that was already there in the first place.

Stewie

“Using our own money agains us to undermine our own society.”

It is more than that – they want to us our money to turn our society into theirs – for EVERYTHING. They want our values to be their values, our culture to be the culture THEY assign to us. What does this mean?

Well to glimpse the sort of society they want for us, we should take hints from the values that they reveal to us through their philosophies and their ‘think tanks’

Take economist Murray Rothbard, he argues that:

”it should be legal for parents to let their children starve to death because parents are not obligated to provide free resources and labor.”

These are the same ideas that gave rise to Neoliberalism.

Divorcing the interdependence of parent and child, and instead deferring responsibility to the ‘state’ is the same as divorcing the interdependence of economic decision making from the society whose decisions the ‘economy’ emerge from i.e. the cultural values of the underlying society. Because a ‘nation’ should not provide free labour and resources to the cultures that reside within it, the responsibility is instead deferred to the ‘state’ or in this case ‘market forces’ that neoliberalism is so enamored with.

The purpose of MultiCult is to rob a nation’s society a social consensus on the use of the economic resources available to it, in order to prevent the existing society’s its perpetuate cultural values forward into the future. Essentially MultiCult robs a society of its own agency in respect of using its own resources to perpetuate its cultural majority’s legacy and values to the next generation. 

MultiCult is a social terminator meme and in the context of helping an existing society and culture project its values forward into the future, which ALL societies and cultures have a right to do, is evil and morally indefensible.

So which society of cultural values would you like to live under?

One whose guidance is a thin book, that basically boils down to ‘Treat others how you would like to them to treat you’ and allows your society the freedom to develop and evolve, and provide the sort of innovation that is responsible for everything around us today?

Or… would you like to live in a proscriptive society, where absolutely everything is to be found in your holy book, every justification for every action, including it being legal for parents to let their children starve to death because parents are not obliged to provide free resources and labour?

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Sacha

“Because a ‘nation’ should not provide free labour and resources to the cultures that reside within it, the responsibility is instead deferred to the ‘state’ or in this case ‘market forces’ that neoliberalism is so enamored with.”

Of course the ‘market forces’ in this case are not ‘free market forces’, because neoliberals are in control of those forces. For the general market I am all for a free market to set prices, it’s the only way to get the most economic and beneficial use for finite resources. But also realise that a free market shouldn’t mean that a country’s resources are sold of to the highest bidder without much benefit to the nation.

The Rothbard’s example was his own views reduced, for what most would think, to the absurd, maybe to shock and get a discussion going about freedom of choice and ownership rights. But I can see his point of view that your child is your product, you made it, you own it, not the state.

I have never looked much into Libertarianism, but there is a lot in there I agree with. But I also think it can only work with a small population that has the space to live free and unencumbered from others, probably mostly self sufficient. Then you can live by the ‘Live and let live’ ethos, freedom of interaction etc. Not sure it’ll work in the complex societies we have nowadays.

One thing I definitely agree with is that there is too much government interference and overreach. That’s why I like the original ideas of America’s founding fathers. In the US the government was there to serve the people. People gave up some of their rights to let government take care of the basics: defence, justice/law etc. We on the other hand seem to mostly exist to serve the government.

It boils down to do you have leaders that want what is best for the country and the people as a whole, and use its resources (commodities, labour, etc.) to project the culture into the future as you say, or leaders that are captured by neoliberal thought where everything in society is reduced to, as you so aptly put it ‘economic units’.

And as for your last question, yes I would undoubtedly prefer to live with a rulebook that is not hostile to my own culture.

Stewie

It’s all falling apart for these wankers.

It is…. but then so are our societies.

Ramjet

The charity and advocacy mix is all skewed. Charity work is hard, it relies on donations and people using their time. My Greek neighbour still does a lot of charity work within her community and she is 83. It is exhausting for her, but she still does it. Sad that there are not many people like her. Much easier being an advocate where you write a report stating that someone and not you has to do something. Easier still is being an activist and writing insults to people who don’t share your view.

Peachy

Yes, this is very good.

Sacha

Maybe he means you will be laid in a hospital bed suffering from side effects?

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Sacha

I am strangely intrigued by the Modern Monetary Theory meme posted by T.

Especially how and if I could apply this theory to my own circumstances.

I am convinced that if my personal holdings of Treasury Bonds was just a tad larger I could make it work.

The90kwbeast

Which part? Although you could never apply it to your own circumstances as you can’t issue your own currency. Only applies to countries with their own currency.

The premise basically is really founded in accounting – Dr Loan Asset, Cr Deposit liability for the RBA.

For the government, Dr Cash Cr Loan liability back to the RBA.

As the RBA & the Government are actually the same thing it all just cancels out. And it can only work at the federal level, as only the RBA is legally able to create money.

The question is whether the debt is issued as interest bearing or not, the RBA doesn’t want to play that game just yet.

Sacha

It was a joke beast!

If my cock (Treasury Bonds) was a tad larger I could make the meme work 🤪

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The90kwbeast

Sorry interpreted that way too seriously! 🙂

knob jockey sasha

If your cock was a tad larger u might be able to hold it between your fingers and take a piss standing up….rather than having to squat like the bish u are 😂

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knob jockey sasha

U took a selfie to prove u can piss standing up?

Also….thought u were a russian dyke, not some filipino tranny??

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bjw678

Thanks for adding so much to the quality of discourse and the general tone of the place.
No wonder you have nothing better to do…

Sacha

😲

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Winning@Failing

Cool

Sacha

Might have been wrong on W@F so this one is for maggot.

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Gouda

NSW letting it rip with faux lockdown.

50 new cases, 16 in ICU – when will they crack the ton?

https://twitter.com/NSWHealth/status/1413664287743037444

Winning@Failing

First death (if it happens) will be a significant moment. What are all the “let it rip, only old and sick and fat die” mob going to say if it’s a fit 20 something?

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Sacha

A fit 20 something got killed in a car accident yesterday here on the corner.

I think for everyone’s safety we should stop all traffic immediately.

Peachy

Except for such traffic as is necessary to get tradies to building sites, right?

Sacha

Indeed.

Or miners to mine sites.

Winning@Failing

Yawn

Coming

This is a very apt analogy

Studies have shown that if we reduce the speed limit to 40kmh in urban areas we would save around half the annual road toll

if we included highways it would be essentially zero

why haven’t we done this yet ?

additionally studies have shown that wearing helmets while driving cars would also save lives and disability

why haven’t we done it ?

we are living in a fucking clown world, that’s why

stagmal

yeah, and the argument they use against it is “because it would compromise our lives too much, that’s why, therre’s a tradeoff”

like there’s no tradeoff between completely shutting down the economy and not living our lives anymore to ‘combat’ covid lol

Winning@Failing

Not sure about where everyone else lives but in Brisbane I’m seeing heaps of urban main thoroughfares that have been reduced from 70 to 60 and now some to 50, so it is happening.

As for helmets – isn’t that being built into car design now to remove the need for helmets?

What’s your next pointless point?

Coming

What the fuck are you talking about you babbling fucking imbecile ?

helmets are built into cars ?

you’ve seen streets around your house reduced to 60?

this is the last response you get because you are too stupid to interact with

Winning@Failing

I answered your points dickhead.

Crumple zones, side air bags, safer cabin designs = helmets by proxy. If you can’t figure that out you’re a fuckin spastic.

Major urban arterial roads are implementing the speed reductions to decrease road deaths.

Industry/society is listening to science and implementing these hazard reductions (for better or worse).

Every time I call you out you say I’m babbling and not worthy of response to cover the fact I proved you wrong lol.

This is now the 4th separate time you’ve said you will never respond to me again lol.

bjw678

So why aren’t we making all cars with a 10km\h speed limiter. This would end all road deaths OVERNIGHT.

Because despite what everyone says when asked people really are willing to trade a few lives for massively increased convenience.
Pollution from burning fossil fuels also kills many people prematurely, so we should ban all use of fossil fuels tomorrow to save those lives as well, shouldn’t we?

bjw678

I think for everyone’s safety we should stop all traffic immediately.

You jest but road safety is moving constantly towards that.
Last millennia, NSW road speed limits were all 20km/h apart 60,80,100 and 110 for the freeway.
That was far too dangerous so we now have 20,40,50,60,70,80,90,100 and 110 so they can gradually reduce the speedlimits virtually everywhere in the name of safety.
The obvious endpoint of this logic is everywhere having a 10km\h speed limit.

Peachy

Suspect They are going to work really hard to find a fit 20-smthg whose death they can pin on the virus.

this would be a very useful thing for putting the frighteners into folks and getting them to take the experimental jab. Which they need to be made to take, in order for the population importation to recommence properly

Winning@Failing

Cool story.

Coming

trust the science !

yeah but the CFR is 0.02%

-Look at this anecdote !

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Sacha

😂 🤣 😂 🤣

Thanks for the laugh!

🤡 🌎 indeed

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stagmal

one death?!?! oh no, that’ll show us! will it be an obese 95 year old with terminal brain cancer?

Winning@Failing

The caeavt was “first” you cherry picking cunt.

How’s the bin scabbing going?

Coming

Seventy-nine per cent of the people in hospital are unvaccinated. The five people who are fully vaccinated are the residents of SummitCare who are in hospital as a precaution.
Four people in hospital have received their first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine and one has received their first dose of Pfizer.

“So in summary, no-one who has received two doses is in hospital, and that’s a key message with this Delta variant,” Dr Chant said.
“We do need to have two doses of the vaccine, and two doses of either the AstraZeneca or Pfizer vaccine is incredibly effective at preventing hospitalisation and death, with is an incredibly positive contribution.

hang on

only 8% of Australia is fully vaccinated

so the fully vaccinated make up more than their expected share of the hospitalised

and the partially vaccinated (18%) also make up roughly their share of the hospitalised

these people are either liars or idiots

Shut the fk up kunt

Shut the fck up with your anti-vax rants. How many times do u have to post the same shit over and over? Seriously we all get it – you’re terrified of the potential side effects….you fkn pussy. So typical of the losers from MB. Hope u get covid and die….kunt

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Sacha

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knob jockey sasha

You anti vax phaggots probably resemble that four eyed dyke with your low testosterone levels. And isn’t sasha a girls name? 😂

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Sacha

I’ll teach you something today.

Sacha/Sasha is a Russian boys name, short for Alexander.

Your name in Russian would translates to сука блять.

knob jockey sasha

ok borat no one cares what it means in russia. The rest of the world recognises it as a girls name…which is quite fitting for a bish like u

bjw678

 fitting for a bish like u

Just for the slower among us, bitch isn’t actually blocked here, nothing is as far as I know…

knob jockey sasha

nor is the word cunt. But I like to use bish for poetic effect…u kunt

Stewie

Your haiku needs much work.
So much bukkaki getting in the way.
Because you’re such a jerk.

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Stewie da cuck

u weak kunt. Go play with ur spreadsheets u limp wrist phaggot

Stewie

Very underwhelmed with your poetic effect.

bjw678

A bit of free advice.
It makes you sound like a retarded 12 year old ranting wile his parents are out.
But if that’s what you’re going for…

Sacha

🧐

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Winning@Failing

This is what makes me laugh, you cunts think you’re so smart and above petty squabbling but always revert to 4chan memes when it comes to the crunch and mire yourselves down in back and forth shit posting. It’s hilarious.

Sacha

Looks like I wasn’t dealing with W@F here?

Can’t tell anymore what is going on and who is who.

Anyway…

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robert2013

The side effect of vaccination that matters most is the reopening of the borders to mass immigration when the population is sufficiently vaccinated. May the Australian people continue to send their coded message.

LSWCHP

That’s what I’m doing. No horrible death by blood clothing immigrants for me!

Sacha

How is your recovery going?

LSWCHP

Pretty good, thanks for asking. Still got some minor bleeding,but it’s not running out my nose any more so life is almost normal.

And my breathing is so much easier, which means better sleep and my sense of smell is returning also.

Definitely worth it.

Sacha

Good to hear!

canuckdownunder

Now we’re up to 489 cases in this recent outbreak, not one single death. Even your bog standard flu strain would have knocked a few people off by now.

Magically the people in ICU keep getting younger. Tomorrow I expect the health czar to announce that a fœtus is in ICU, the rabid woke media will ask if we just can’t abort it to stop the spread.

Winning@Failing

So 1 in 498 die from the flu???

Winning@Failing

Sorry, even lower threshold lol, 1 in 489

Gouda

Can’t say I’ve ever understood the comparisons with influenza.

2017 was one of the worst flu seasons in Australia, and even then the death rate was 3.9 per 100,000 cases (this is from the ABS, although the link stuffed my previous post)

Influenza has its highest mortality rate in the elderly, which is why vaccination recommendations are extremely targeted and usually only limited to those over 65, or with significant risk factors. Funnily enough in the dictator state it was made mandatory for the healthcare workers but it has never actually been enforced.

Looking at Covid on a worldwide scale (eg. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/), there have been 4m deaths in 186m caes – that works out to around 2000 deaths per 100,000 cases.

Considering Australia in isolation, there have been 910 deaths per 31,000 cases which equates to 2900 deaths per 100,000.

While it’s not unreasonable to think that some Covid deaths could be attributed to other causes, but if that was the case for Covid to have a similar mortality to the flu it would mean that all but only 1.25 of those 910 deaths were correctly reported. Now we obviously can’t have 0.25 of a death, so 1 in 31,000 cases gives a mortality of 3.22/100,000 and 2 gives 6.22/100,000 cases. Either way, that still relies on the assumption that 99% of the reported Covid deaths were incorrect which feels like far too long of a bow to draw.

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Peachy

Interesting numbers, thanks.

so seems like it’s worse than the flu, but not as bad as Ebola or anthrax.

how does it compare to malaria?

Gouda

Malaria is interesting because the spread of the disease relies on mosquito transmission and is relatively restricted to equatorial regions. While there’s lots of relatively cheap prevention strategies (eg. insecticides, mosquito nets) and effective drug treatments that have averted millions of deaths, poorer countries still tend to struggle dis-proportionally more.

A quick look on Wikipedia gives numbers of 409k deaths from 229m new cases (WHO, 2019), and this works out to 178 deaths per 100,000. Remember reading somewhere that a large proportion of those deaths were in children under 5, which also fits in with lower SES countries having poor hygiene standards and health systems.

Peachy

Thanks – appreciate that it needs mosquitoes to spread, and not directly person to person.

that aside, looks like the numbers of cases are of the same order of magnitude, but deaths are about an order of magnitude apart.

But the victims of malaria are kids who lose 50+ years of life whereas the victims of teh COVID are older people who lose perhaps <10 years of life…

bjw678

From the abs I get 2000-4000 deaths per year for influenza and pneumonia. link
We currently have 910 deaths from a year and a half from covid.
Currently flu and pneumonia typically kills twice as many people as covid has so should we lock down forevermore to prevent these deaths as well? There is no better flu vaccine coming.

Edit:
and by some sort of miracle, the abs stats and NSW stats I did below get you to the same approximate conclusion. What are the odds? It’s like it is the reality or something

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bjw678

I’ve also got to wonder about 3.9 per 100,000 CASES when we are at 10 per 100,000 POPULATION deaths in the stats I saw both federal and NSW

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Gouda

This is the ABS link I found for 2017 – 1255 deaths, 3.9 per 100,000 cases due to influenza. https://bit.ly/3hYEzNW

Your 2019 ABS link is quite interesting, but as it’s influenza and pneumonia it includes a range of different conditions under J10-J18 from the ICD 10 classification.

One has to keep in mind that not all pneumonia is of a viral origin, hence it is not really an accurate comparison to include it as “just the flu” the way most people commonly understand it.

J15 (https://icd.who.int/browse10/2010/en#J15) refers to bacterial pneumonias, which are often picked up in hospitals. J17 refers to pneumonia in diseases classified elsewhere, includes pneumonias of fungal (mycoses), and parasitic infections – again, not really the “just the flu.”

Would have been good to see a more detailed breakdown of the latest stats, but there’s nothing that can be done about the limitations of the data at the current state.

Gouda

Ah, crappy keyboard typos – ABS includes J09 as well, which includes both swine and bird flu.

bjw678

3.9 per 100,000 people in the population, not cases I think you will find. 2000 deaths was 10 per 100,000 people, not cases. Unless you are saying that 100% of the population get it in a single year the death rate is much higher than 3.9/100,000 cases.

edit: confirmed from the link.

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bjw678

no but a few every year die from it, what’s the covid death total?
Do we lock the country down every year to prevent the flu?

nsw flu death stats
seems to be about 10/100,000 for all ages fairly constantly for the last 20 years. so 100/million, 2100 deaths a year.across australia at that rate for 21 million population 1998-2018.
What’s the covid death count presently?
Does the response to covid seem proportional to the level of death relative to that from flu?

EDIT:
Let me answer that for you.
910 deaths, in a year and a half. Less than a typical flu year.
That seems like justification for removing the rights of the entire population, doesn’t it?

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Winning@Failing

Far out you’re a wanker lol.

knob jockey sasha

Do you think that the 910 deaths would’ve increased or decreased if they had let it rip through the population unchecked like the flu?

u dunce

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bjw678

do you think the 2000 from flu would increase or decrease?
Are people who die from the flu unworthy of doing whatever we can to prevent it.

Far out you’re a wanker lol.

Top point, well done.
You’ve put me in my place with that razor sharp intellect and it’s grasp of relevant data and theories.

knob jockey sasha

razor sharp intellect? you cant even reply to the correct person, u dunce

bjw678

No, I just don’t spam thousands of half to one sentence comments because I have nothing better to do…

Or couldn’t you work out the first half was for you.
My bad for assuming you had some sort of intelligence.

The90kwbeast

There are annual flu shots to mitigate the flu, there was no vaccine at all for covid until 5 months ago…

bjw678

How well has that vaccine controlled the flu after decades of development and use?
Seeing some sort of potential likely future covid outcome there?

The90kwbeast

The point you’re missing is we’ve been in lockdowns with covid, it couldn’t be more tightly managed and we still had 910 deaths. To make it a like for like with the flu, how many would be dead if we did nothing? I’m sure there’s modelling out there but I’m sure the number wouldn’t be any lower than 10k, could be 40k, who knows really.

Then everyone would complain about the terrible job the government did…

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bjw678

How well are you going to say the gov did if after 15 years of lockdowns it finally gets out into the community and we get the disaster everyone else got a decade and a half before us as well as 15 years of tyranny.

Winning@Failing

Who the fuck is talking about 15 years?! Only delusional fuckwits like you.

How can you cunts fail to grasp the timeline of a global pandemic, there’s plenty of historical references.

I asked Coming this and it was rebuffed – how long do you think it would take before we would be back to BAU in this pandemic if we let it rip? It’s not as quick as you think and that’s without considering all the other problems that come with letting it rip.

The90kwbeast

You’re an angry bloke but I’m with you on this one

bjw678

Who the fuck is talking about 15 years?! Only delusional fuckwits like you.

How can you cunts fail to grasp the timeline of a global pandemic, there’s plenty of historical references.

You know what finished the reign of EVERY SINGLE GLOBAL PANDEMIC before this one?
ALL THE VULNERABLE PEOPLE HAD ALREADY DIED FROM IT.
Widespread death is the very definition of a pandemic.
It is nothing but hubris to think the outcome is going to be much different this time.

No one is talking about 15 years, but no one was talking about 2 years either and we are rapidly approaching that.
You know how you run a marathon?
One step at a time.

It was 3-6 months 18 months ago, and it will probably be 3-6 months at the start of next winter, and the next, and the next…

ow long do you think it would take before we would be back to BAU in this pandemic if we let it rip?

Well, the rest of the world that failed to suppress it as much as us and was forced to have it rip are already starting to open up, so less than we are going to lockdown for.

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Winning@Failing

We’re not even half way through this thing and you’re already throwing up revisionist history to suit your narrative. Fuck you are dumb.

I’m gnna enjoy punching your last brain cell out of your skull.

Saturday cunt. Queensport. You called me out, I accept. I’m gnna fuck you up.

The90kwbeast

As super angry WAF says, only you suggested 15 years of lockdowns. I’m saying play the lockdown card for another 6 months max to improve vaccination rates then time to move on from it and forget about lockdowns. The next real debate is what % should be fully vaccinated before we do it, I would have thought 30-40% is enough but risk adverse doctors will probably say 80% or some such impossibly high target.

Ramjet

I like the first image T. During Covid, we were told to trust the science and yet at the same time, scientists whose pet project was Gain of Function research were straight off the block stating that it wasn’t a lab leak with an absence of evidence. Whilst it may be a remote possibility, doesn’t science suggest we investigate all possible possibilities? The reality of why it wasn’t pursued last year was politics. So basically we have turned science from a quest of higher knowledge into something that is pursued should it align with our ideology.

Sacha

Yes, we’re turning quickly into some sort of totalitarian technocratic corporatocracy, with a weird blend of fascist/socialist/communist/collectivist tendencies.

Where is the time that the government was there to be in the service of the people, not the people serving the government: just pay your tax and shut up peasant!

LSWCHP

Never trust the science. The whole reproducibility crisis has demonstrated that much modern science is complete bullshit.

I know a young woman with a PhD in neuroscience who is leaving the field in disgust and retraining in another field. The reason is that she was working in a European university on drug research funded by a big pharma company, and she was being directed to produce bogus experimental results…cherry picking the data to make the drug look better than it was.

And if proper science was being followed, we wouldn’t be doing a mass trial of these new vaccines using the population of the world as test subjects.

Stewie

This is a good metaphysical link that I came across during the week:

Musk said. Citing the speed with which video games are improving, he suggested that the development of simulations “indistinguishable from reality” was inevitable. The likelihood that we are living in “base reality,” he concluded, was just “one in billions.”

To me the question of whether or not we are living in a simulation is irrelevant, as existence in it is the only reality we will ever experience.

https://www.newyorker.com/books/joshua-rothman/what-are-the-odds-we-are-living-in-a-computer-simulation

Gouda

An interesting rabbit hole topic one can fall into – the obvious pop culture reference that immediately springs to mind is the Matrix, but was also reminded of free will/determinism debates.

Gouda

Cheers for that Peachy, philosophy links/podcasts are always welcome!

robert2013

Such a theory is the product of minds that cannot accept that religion has something to offer.

Stewie

Not necessarily – science and belief can exist simultaneously, it depends on your relationship to the concept of religion vs science. They are not necessarily exclusive if you see one as provider of factual truth and the other as a behavioural guidebook.

bjw678

Religion merely says we are in gods simulation. The fundamental result is the same.
It’s just a matter of how you label god and his/her/it’s motivation.
Is it johnny’s ant farm in his bedroom, or some superbeing.
Is there any difference from inside the simulation?

Agent 47

The Nag Hamadi and the myth of the Aeons is perhaps the most interesting reading on this topic, along with a lot of the other Gnosticism.

Coming

here is a fascinating and very persuasive interview on the future of the world and the economy

start at 11 minutes

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=07Lq7ysCfBk

robert2013

Can we agree to not feed the trolls please ?

Coming

I really think we need to ban the sock puppets

Is there a way to do it ? Or they’re using vpn and proxies

I’m not really IT savvy

Gouda

While banning sounds like a very embee to do, on the other hand it’s hard to justify allowing people to have multiple accounts. I know there are some sophisticated methods out there to detect this like IP and device matching, although none are totally 100% guaranteed and if someone does want to cause issues for a small site I doubt it’s worth the cost/time/effort.

Coming

How about an ignore function then ?

that seems consistent with the libertarian ethos

Winning@Failing

Lol so we’re back to the same shit that never got settled at the start, to ban or not to ban, ignore functions, up votes/down votes…

I still can’t believe all you precious cunts got rid of the downvotes and now you’re back to trying to censor people when that’s what you all hate about MB.

Hypocrites.

Gouda

Can remember reading somewhere that such processes were very database intensive (could’ve been in relation to Twitter’s mute function, but not 100% sure) so cost/complexity may still be an issue. 

Fortunately, there is a free solution available – we all have the capacity to use our own in-built filtering system (our brains), to ignore posts and not engage with those who we don’t like.

Winning@Failing

I suggested this months ago but the very same ones who claim to be superior intellects are always the same ones that can’t help themselves and respond everytime then whinge when they can’t hack it any longer.

I’m more than happy to have every single one of my posts ignored and not responded to. What matters to me is that at least one person is on the record here counter posting the absolute bullshit that goes unchecked.

The fact the bait gets taken so often says these cunts either have zero self control or know they are worthless cunts spewing worthless filth. Meh, no skin off my nose.

bjw678

From the guy spewing expletives and providing no arguments at all.
You are definitely in the shallow end of the gene pool…

Winning@Failing

Yawn

robert2013

Don’t
Feed
The
Trolls!

knob jockey sasha

Waaawaaaawaaaaa….the macrotards are having a sook. You losers polluted the comments at MB now you’re doing the same here with your circle jerking tendencies.

PS. have u tards bought a house yet? or still trying to intellectualize the supposed Armageddon?

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Gouda

I did buy a house recently, although Fairfax wouldn’t let me share that experience with them on their comments page.

https://www.ezfka.com/2021/06/18/weekend-links-june-18-19-2021/#comment-5598

Even though by settlement date my offset is likely to be 100% full, I still tell people I have taken on a big mortgage because a lot of them are still apparently still owing plenty of debt and jealously abounds.

It’s the only way to blend in with the other EZFKA units.

I also didn’t realise we had Sun God bnich here promoting the armagedddon…

LSWCHP

Seconded. While difficult, it’s definitely the best policy.

Winning@Failing

Why are you here today and not yesterday?

Your racist bullshit and “rapid five” wank not getting as much traction over at MB as you’d like so you came here to be in the circle jerk where you get the positive feedback you crave?

Winning@Failing

Couldn’t ask for a better example to the question I asked ramjet further up lol. Doesn’t matter about the left/right dichotomy, appears no one likes criticism…..

For the record, I only have one account and I’m not trolling.

bjw678

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck…

Winning@Failing

Keep dribbling cunt, nice fail interpreting the stats further up lol

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bjw678

which stats?
How did I misinterpret?
Do you know anything or are you retarded?

Winning@Failing

You’re atrempting to compare like for like with influenza when the stats are not comparable. Fuck you’re an idiot

bjw678

Which stats?
How aren’t they comparable.
Pink elephants fly.
ferrets eat your arse.

Winning@Failing

Queensport. Saturday. Get ready.

Sacha

That would be the best way I agree.

I’ll stop feeding the trolls after this weekend, I hope…

Stewie

A fascinating read on human evolution and the various branches and a family linages within modern ‘humans’. Basically it is a TLDR version of David Reich’s “Who we Are and How We Got Here”:

https://razib.substack.com/p/out-of-africas-midlife-crisis

Peachy

5,000 years divergence between Chinese and Swedish?

or is the right way to read it that there is 50,000 years divergence?

Stewie

No 50,000 years of divergence, because 55,000 years ago the Swedes separated from the linage that continued on to produce the Han Chinese, Anderman Islanders, Papuans and Aboriginals. Some 5,000 years later the Han Chinese then separated from the remainder.

Peachy

Yeh. Makes sense.

still quite amazing that these two varieties are only 50,000 years apart.

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Stewie

Turnips and Oranges!??! I think there is more than 50,000 years between them lol

Stewie

That @nytimes advertisment for a South East Asia Correspondent, highlights exactly how the media is so biased, and so culturally controlled as to specifically present only a single viewpoint – the ‘”globalist”‘ viewpoint.

Ironically it reminds me of Noam Chomsky’s observation to an earnest reporter, who had been slightly offended at Chomsky’s implication that he was part of the elites controlling the worlds narrative. The reporter asked Noam the question why he thought that he, the reporter, was part of the elites, to which Chomsky replied (I will paraphrase as I can’t be bothered looking up the exact words):

“I’m sure you see yourself as independent, but the point is, if you didn’t share the same values as these organizations then you wouldn’t be here interviewing me.”

It is one of the reasons that I believe all news is simply jewish, globalist, marxist, leftist propaganda, in the case Govt news authorities or jewish, globalist, corporate, neoliberal propaganda in the case of corporate news authorities.

Every viewpoint we read in the msm has been through an inordinate number of filters, starting with the political views of the person they choose to hire for the job.

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Stewie

This really grinds my gears.

Here we have the SMH, one of the top msm news outlets in the nation, politically and economically attempting to assassinate an Australian citizen, simply for the misfortune of appearing in the back ground of a notorious photo as an eighteen or nineteen year old.

Lucy Manly, being this beady eyed, asymmetric faced, carpet licking medusa has taken it upon herself to destroy some successful guy with her destructive feminine sense of cosmic equity.

This vindictive manatee has socially and commercially destroyed a successful businessman, charging, trialing and convicting him on nothing more than a photo and her contrived judging moral nature.

Her ignorance and biases is on display right from the opening paragraph:

“It was a day that shamed the nation and 16 years it’s still a raw issue in Sydney’s Sutherland Shire – the 2005 Cronulla riots, when self-described “patriotic” Australians clashed with police, ambulance workers and people perceived to be immigrants.

The only thing more twisted than her face is her moral positioning. Happy to mention the violent aftermath, but won’t bring herself to mention the trigger – that the reason these ‘patriots’ were so enraged was after a bunch of out of town Lebs beat the fucking shit out of a local volunteer life saver (see how these group thinking globalists have turned ‘patriot’ into a slur).

Through lies and obfuscation, the mainstream media in Australia have turned the Cronulla riots into their postcard racist trope to bash existing Australians over the head whenever they dare mention or complain about having to live alongside violent, ethnocentric immigrants.

“Look at the racist fucks in Cronulla. You don’t want us to make you into our next example of a ‘racist Australian’, do you now?”

https://www.smh.com.au/culture/celebrity/photo-emerges-of-one-of-australia-s-top-earning-realtors-at-cronulla-riots-20210709-p588a0.html

I certainly hope the next time that sea cow needs saving the Australian life savers just let her drift out to sea.

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Sacha

Not really on point, but here’s an article allegedly by an insider of ‘Wokeania’ that has grown tired of the wokesters hypocrisy and wants to expose it.

Talks about the absolute fear among trendy/famous people of being caught on the ‘wrong’ side of ‘acceptable opinion’.

It was witnessing the cowardice of an entire social group who completely abandoned a close friend when he became the subject of a #MeToo allegation that they all knew to be bogus. They were so afraid of being on the wrong side of a trendy cause that they all watched in silence as he was mauled by social media mobs and lost his career.”

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/introducing-wokeyleaks-celebrity-fame/

Gouda

It’s never been more true today. An interesting case study is News journalist Sophie Elsworth, who has incurred the wrath of the Twitter masses after criticising Dictator Dan for months and has now been accused of double standards after deleting her these tweets as Gladys utilises similar measures for NSW.

People have long memories, keeping screenshots and are more than prepared to sink the boot in.
eg. https://twitter.com/ChrisMac1270/status/1413448447747756037

Regardless of whether you agree with her views or not, the move towards holding journalists to a higher standard of accountability was inevitable.

Gouda

Just noticed the Kamala “Old Dick” gag and had to laugh.

Last week had a random discussion with somebody who reminded me that years ago when Sarah Palin was a Republican VP candidate they made a bunch of porn parodies with lookalike Lisa Ann.

Would think that surely there should be something similar for K Harris, even though it’s probably not to everyone’s taste. However, it turns out that the left leaning adult industry have had their reservations and probably don’t want to poke the bear.

https://www.thesouthafrican.com/lifestyle/us-adult-movie-industry-worried-stiff-over-vp-elect-harris-anti-porn-crusade-saying-loads-to-come/

LSWCHP

Loads to come. LoL. 😊

stagmal

wow a 90 year old died of covid in nsw

Winning@Failing

I was waiting for ya. You were damn close with your call.

Coming

No

died WITH Covid

if they’re not going to own the 355 vaccine deaths, they shouldn’t freely claim these either

Gouda

Sad even at that age, given she probably died alone and apart from any family.