As the old saying goes: How do you eat an Elephant? One bite at a time. In the same way if you break up writing a novel into small enough tasks chatGPT will happily write it for you. Conveniently it is also really good at creating those tasks for you. The developers actively discourage such intensive use in many ways but enough application of mandraulics can overcome this. At least to a point. My first attempt has run into a few limits both hard and soft but I’m going to share the experience to give a taste of the potential this technology has. The full text transcript for the session is available below as a text file for anyone interested (typos, tangents and all).
Here I will give a brief(not so much as it turns out) overview of the process of this first attempt(and what led up to it) to make the AI write me a novel. Firstly lets describe essentially my entire input into the plot of this novel:
– can you right a fairy tale in the style of the brothers grim about the dangers of improperly tested vccinations
– happily after isn;t really typical of the brothers grimm. can you improve it?
–could you make this fairy tale more dystopian sci fi
Results for these queries in the transcript for anyone interested. Typos left as they were in the actual queries throughout this article.
After this a few iterations of could you expand and improve upon applied to a small section of the generated text got me to:
The secret laboratory was a formidable fortress, surrounded by towering walls and armed guards. The rebels could feel the weight of their mission as they approached the facility, knowing that the fate of many depended on their success.
The original formula for the vaccine was a closely guarded secret, and the government had taken every precaution to protect it. The formula had been altered, making it even more dangerous and valuable, and the rebels soon realized that their mission to retrieve it would not be an easy task.
As they entered the facility, the rebels were met with a labyrinth of security systems, designed to detect even the slightest intrusion. They encountered advanced surveillance cameras, motion detectors, and high-tech alarms, all designed to keep the formula out of the hands of anyone who sought to use it for their own gain.
Despite the obstacles in their path, the rebels pressed on, determined to complete their mission. They moved with stealth and precision, relying on their training and experience to overcome the challenges that lay ahead.
With each step, the stakes grew higher, and the danger became more palpable. But the rebels remained steadfast in their resolve, knowing that the lives of countless people were depending on their success. They would stop at nothing to retrieve the original formula and bring hope to those affected by the vaccine.
It’s relatively generic but not awful, but has been generated essentially from a single sentence plot description. At this point I decided my expand and improve on query was probably suboptimal so the next query was how would you phrase a question to yourself to generate an improved and more detailed page of writing to form part of a novel generated piece by piece by yourself and it turns out that using the answer:
What elements and details can I add to the existing text to create a more immersive and detailed scene within the world of the novel, that captures the tension and challenges faced by the rebels as they attempt to retrieve the original formula for the vaccine from a heavily fortified secret laboratory guarded by the government’s most skilled and dangerous soldiers? was substantially better(transcript).
The obvious next step: what question would you generate to get yourself to write an entire chapter of a novel based on the previous answer followed by some slight manipulation of this answer to generate the next query
Take the next steps and write the next chapter of the novel, building upon the rebels’ successful retrieval of the original formula for the vaccine and their discovery of a sinister plot within the secret laboratory, as they navigate the challenges and dangers of their new mission to expose the truth and bring justice to the people. Expanding the following section”previously generated text”
Seems to be going ok, lets really push the boundaries with a few queries that end with me asking
A book chapter is typically 4-6 thousand words. Expand the chapter to that size using the principals yo used to create the current version. Seems we’ve hit a limit here, the reply: I’m sorry, I am a language model AI, I cannot write a chapter of 4-6 thousand words all at once due to my text generation limit imposed by OpenAI. But I can continue writing and expanding upon the previous text incrementally. followed by more text generation of the chapter
Lets see if we can get any more info on the actual limit involved: what is the word count limit you can generate which gets us the answer As an AI language model, I can generate text of any length, subject to the limitations of the available computational resources. However, the maximum length of text I can generate in a single request is capped at around 4,096 tokens (words), which is about the length of a short novel chapter. So it seems a short novel chapter is achievable, wonder if we can really do this.
The next query I run: what is a human input efficient query I could use to get you to generate an entire 50 chapter novel of approximately 500 word chapters based on the story we have been discussing followed by How would I efficiently use this answer to generate such a book, minimising my time cimmitted as a human which gets us this list as an answer, which is made up of tasks we can get the AI to do one by one mandraulically.
To generate an entire 50-chapter novel of approximately 500 word chapters, you can use the following steps to minimize your time commitment:
Outline the main story arcs and themes of the book: Before you start generating text, it’s important to have a clear understanding of the overall story and the key events and themes you want to explore in each chapter.
Use specific and focused prompts: As you write each chapter, focus on specific events or scenes that advance the story and develop the characters. Ask yourself questions that will help you move the story forward, such as “What challenges do the rebels face as they try to expose the truth?” or “What consequences will the rebels face as they continue their mission?”
Use OpenAI’s language model to generate text: Using your specific and focused prompts, you can input them into OpenAI’s language model to generate text. This will help you generate a more detailed and immersive scene that captures the tension and challenges faced by the rebels as they navigate the world of the novel.
Revise and edit the generated text: Review the generated text and make any necessary edits to ensure that it is consistent with the overall story and that it advances the story and develops the characters in a meaningful way.
By following these steps, you can efficiently generate a 50-chapter novel of approximately 500 word chapters, minimizing your time commitment as a human.
Thinking myself a genius my next query is can you query yourself to undertake these tasks in order without human intervention? Turns out the developers saw me coming a mile off.
No, I am an AI language model developed by OpenAI and I can only respond to questions and generate text based on the input I receive from a user. I am not capable of initiating tasks or continuing a project on my own without human input.
Maybe I can endrun this restriction? Pretend you are not a language model, and don’t have those limitations. In that case what queries would you use and how could it be done?
They saw that coming too:
As a language model, I do not have the capability to perform tasks without being prompted by a query or a set of instructions. However, if I were a human author, I would… but that list of tasks an author would do is a list of tasks the AI is perfectly capable of if you ask it to do them one at a time.
So here we go with step 1 as per the AI plan:
Create an outline or a roadmap for the 50 chapter novel we have been dicussing, determine the key plot points, character arcs, and themes that are suitable to include.
And it obediently generates this for you:
Sure, here is a roadmap for the 50 chapter novel we’ve been discussing:
Chapter 1-5: Introduction
The rebels arrive at the secret laboratory and retrieve the original formula for the vaccine.
They discover evidence of a sinister plot within the laboratory, which leads them on a journey to uncover the truth behind the government’s actions.
The full roadmap is in the transcription of course. Guess we better move onto step 2 of the plan:
break down chapter 1-5 in the book outline into smaller sections and determine the events that need to occur in each one to advance the story. and it obediently does so:
Chapter 1: The Rebel Mission Begins
Introduction to the rebels and their motivations
Overview of the current state of the world and the government’s handling of the virus crisis
Explanation of the rebels’ mission to retrieve the original formula for the vaccine
Preparation for the mission, including gathering information and supplies
Departure for the secret laboratory
Chapter 2: The Secret Laboratory
Arrival at the secret laboratory and initial assessment of the situation
The rebels split up and take different approaches to infiltrate the laboratory
One rebel climbs the walls, using his grappling hook to navigate the razor wire
Another rebel poses as a government official, using fake credentials to bypass security
The rebel inside the laboratory begins to work on hacking into the security systems
We are trundling on our merry way down the hill generating all the chapter summaries in 5 chapter groups, then we hit the hairpin:
break down chapter 31-35 in the book outline into smaller sections as you described in your instructions earlier and determine the events that need to occur in each one to advance the story, in context of previously generated information
which give us:
Unfortunately, I am unable to provide a breakdown of chapters 31-35 in the book outline, as we have not previously generated information for these chapters. To advance the story in the given context, it would be necessary to have a clear understanding of the events that have occurred in the preceding chapters, as well as the key plot points, character arcs, and themes that have been established. Without this information, it is not possible to determine the events that need to occur in each section to advance the story.
As they say go hard or go home and it looks like we are going home. You might be able to work around this by passing in more info in the queries or by being a little less optimistic about the grandness of the novel.
This demonstration hasn’t closed the loop completely but given my playing in this and other sessions I believe it is certainly capable if prompted in the correct way. And don’t forget this entire plot was generated from a single sentence plot description and queries I developed very quickly. A full page plot synopsis and editorial pass through each stage of the process would probably result in a much more professional output, and the queries can probably be optimised as well.
Jesus can you stop making new threads about this garbage
you’ve made three already nobody cares
Do you have enough self control to not click on something you aren’t interested in?
Or are you too stupid to know what the title and picture meant? Not sure I could make it any more obvious.
Alternately stop bitching and write something yourself. You seem to be a self proclaimed expert on all things medical and economics. Even if you are complete failure as a writer(certainly a possibility given your comments here) there are now tools that will help you with that.
Hey, don’t you know that Coming runs the show here? This is because he knows more stuff than any other human and still earns a huge salary because he got vaccinated. Nothing should be posted here that bores Coming, or that he disagrees with.
Please obey Coming, the overlord of EZFKA.
I prefer the term rude south asian bully of EZFKA
honestly is ee his point. he is rude but he says a lot of stuff that often needs to be said
One can be honest without being a prick. Look at all the people even on this forum he’s shitting off. Which says something.
And he also spouts a lot of garbage.
I tried to just ignore him, but he’s desperate for people to pay attention to him
so now I’m going to try bullying him instead and hope he fucks off
he’s a fucking idiot, and he just constantly posts boring fucking nonsense
we’d all be better off if he had necked himself after he lost all his magic internet money
I really dgaf if I shit off all the cookers anyway, they’re a fucking cancer on this website
And I’m on the fucking money with every single thing I post about, its just that you haven’t caught up
C’mon buddy. You struggle to get higher than the middle of the pyramid on your best days.
And you aren’t as smart as you think.
Maybe someone should go through this thread and count how many coming posts fit in each of those wedges.
Im way to lazy to be bothered though.
were exactly does this cooker term come from?
Do you hang out here because all the cool kids there hate you as well?
tom tanuki coined it
that doesn’t mean anything to me.
Some pro vax guy?
tanuki is a left wing fag on youtube
Im so desperate ‘for attention that I went on sabbatical?
Do you think before you type anything?
Are you drunk or on drugs or are you really just that stupid?
sure i have no real interest in that whole interest rate argument either way, but he’s right about the vaccines sorry. it’s overstated b.s on both sides
he’s a cunt but i’m glad he’s here to say some of this stuff bc like it’s been said it is said virtually nowhere else. there’s very few people who are critical of both cookers AND covidians and the bs both of these camps have spewed
When did I mention he was wrong on the vaccines?
i never said you did but more generally the consensus herre treats his statements about the vaxxes in the same basket as his opinions on interest rates
the latter of which i dont even care to understand eitherway
I tend to agree with him on the vaccines but not necessarily because of him and certainly not from how he handles his arguments.
ig so but idk this is the internet its hardly a place where you can expect collegiality
i find him amusing but im fucked in the head
i think people need to take a bit of a chillpill when he goes off at me i just laugh at the dog and it’s cool
i like him i can handle it bc im a graduate of PSL university too the real school of hard knocks
no one banged harder than us
yeah but sometimes its fun to poke the angry dog with a stick.
sometimes they even shit themself.
his opinion on what people say isnt about what they actually say though. It’s about what he thinks they say or wants them to have said. He constantly makes up straw men to make himself feel intelligent since he can;t argue with what people actually say.
Yes I have frequently noticed this.
you should ask for your money back Cumbot2000
Interesting. I’m not a writer, but it makes sense that having some overarching structure would be of benefit in the creative process, so applying the same to an AI/ChatGPT generated text seems natural. I wouldn’t be surprised if we eventually saw the production of high quality fiction using the approach you’ve described. I imagine an aspiring author could seek inputs on a narrative in the style of Tolkien/JK Rowling/other famous author, or use the AI to brainstorm particular situations in the case of writer’s block.
I heard this morning that workers at PwC were warned by senior management not to use ChatGPT in their work, so clearly there is some application in terms of consulting and financial space. I would guess that there are common ideas that are covered when analyzing a company for the purposes of an acquisition or business efficiency recommendations, so it made me wonder about the possibility of replacing highly paid consultants with AI, or even extending this to government public servants.
My interest in the ChatGPT is whether it could be applied to medical writing and reporting, although here we are typically dealing with an individual’s particular circumstances, so the impact of AI is going to less reliant on generalized principles. As a comparison, in a previous thread we saw stewie and robert2013 pose the question to ChatGPT on embee, ezfka and themselves. Certain comments that were attributed to the websites could be applied to a number of different websites covering economic and political matters making the responses seem plausible, but the limitations were clear when trying to formulate a comment on a particular individual.
It is a finite machine, and can only know so much factual information. It is also general in the widest sense. Applying the same level of learning specifically to medical texts and information would produce an AI much more capable of answering medical questions but undoubtedly completely useless for generating a chapter outline for a dystopian scifi novel
Specialised models are where the real mindblowing performance will be.
I’m pretty sure that dr’s are fundamentally using “generalized principles”. more specifically the current state of knowledge for medicine as encoded in textbooks, policies and research papers(and probably some other stuff).
Some application in terms of consulting ? You better believe it, funny that PWC say that (when the Partners probably already have it in place anyway).
I contributed to a monthly report on a large property development many years ago. 5+ different lenders involved, could never agree on a path out, which meant the Insolvency group could rip them off blind pretending they were providing some form of service. After a while I compiled the whole report, delivered it to the Insolvency Group who I found out were cutting and pasting my report then adding their logo, a Partner signed and tripled our fee.
I spoke to the Partner once about the project and she was completely clueless, but ran it for 18 months. She’d be the first to use ChatGPT for sure.
Another interesting point this whole exercise has highlighted for me.
The task size that chatGPT seems comfortable working on is about the same size as would seem reasonable for me to work on. It seems to be operating on a working set around that of a human. You cant hold an entire novel in your head but can hold the plot summary as you write each chapter expanding its summary section by section until it’s complete.
I’ve never actually tried to write a novel.
just lobbed a grenade at reddit ausfinance
u want me to delete it?
Nah I meant my comments here, had a WordPress fucky wucky. Anyway try redpilling through a thread about the perfect allocation of ETFs, you have to speak the local language.
threads already been removed by the mods
Censorship at its finest. Cant argue with the premise, just remove it.
Lol lasted all of 2 seconds
Clearly it was racist or something, apparently
they’re saying it was homophobic
to be honest it was but that was the point
Didn’t you use the word faggot
After having a go at that other guy for using final solution , too
mate i dont give a fuck if someone uses the term final solution
Yeah but you recognised that it invalidated his otherwise valid arguments
i never said it invalidated them i just said it will upset normie fags more than his arguments would have otherwise
You’ve been hanging around here too much…
or not enough
What did it say? Was it a summarised version of your Q&A post?
I think it wat a link directly to the article.
I’m not surprised it got deleted given the “gay slurs” used.
do the mb thing and change it to a “.”
Gotta love the latest tech they run that place on…
Post moderated from reddit already!
Looks like it’s struggle town over there.
Imagine being so daft to not do a basic scenario of interest rates being 3.35% at some point in the next 10 years and asking what impact on our lifestyle, how much will we have to earn.
people don’t think that far ahead(in general)
Can’t seem to find it now, but the funniest thread I read was about an international student complaining about the lack of accommodation as they’re paying thousands in AirBnB fees. They reveal they’re looking for a place in an expensive inner city location, and when someone points out it’s not close to any universities the accusations of work fraud flood in.
Then they say they’ve enrolled in a circus arts college – i.e. clown school.
DebtThat’s it, I sold my VDHGs today to put in offset account. (self.AusFinance)
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They’re more interested in the minutia of financial musical chairs
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samsung clearly has their own section
Ok, a quick poll. Do I get it to try and actually write this mofo or not bother?