What’s the conspiracy?

John Adams managed to waffle on for 54 minutes in a recent Martin North video. I’m none the wiser wtf he was talking about, but he’s passing the hat around to fundraise $50k and has already raised nearly half! So what’s the conspiracy?

“In early 2021, two individual Australians approached John Adams with a massive conspiracy theory involving a tale of systemic financial crime that touches the highest levels of Australian business, politics, sport and entertainment and has allegedly been occurring within Australia for at least a decade, if not longer.”

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T

Yeah no idea what he is talking about either. It was pretty wierd. Still, they probably can’t say anything, and Martin North is a stickler for process, so likely he is onto something big.

Maybe why ASIC is getting its budget bumped, something with political ramifications.

Gouda

There was an earlier video about this mystical “package” that came cross like John was in the midst of having a psychotic episode. North described him as having become a recluse, disappearing on his “quest,” leaving work and ending up in financial distress.

Now he’s come out and said he was commenting on Covid conspiracies, as some kind of cover for his “behind the scenes” work, building a team and cumulating in a 9 month investigation for a complaint which he has then handed to ASIC.

Supposedly he received written confirmation in writing that an official ASIC investigation has commenced which is no mean feat, but that also means he can’t comment much either.

T

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A fly in your ointment

Ouch, the consternation must be overwhelming

Illis

To bring about a reformed ‘multilateral UN and global financial system) they (‘Globalist’) need to pull the US down a few pegs. Seen from this lens, all these war shenanigans, West vs East conflicts make sense.

T

Post going around from France, where there are more protests happening – this time to protest Macron funding the uki neo-nazis.

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T

lol… the tide is clearly turning on the covid stupidity. sucks to be you if you succumbed and took the magic jab…

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A fly in your ointment

LOL, I love this one the most.
It is assumed as a common phrase now in my dick tionary

Edit:
Pls keep them coming

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lswchp

Two papers published by an ex Covid fanatic cardiologist in the UK, who woke up to the grift when his fit 73 year old father suddenly dropped dead of a blocked up heart after being vaxxed.

The short story is that the harms caused by the vaccines appear to outweigh the benefits. Well, who wouldve thought? A summary, with links to the papers, is at the link.

https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/peer-reviewed-paper-curing-the-pandemic

Peachy

According to one senior doctor in regular contact with England’s Chief Medical Officer, Chris Whitty, most of his colleagues in leadership positions influencing health policy may not have been critically appraising the evidence and were instead relying on media stories on COVID-19 and the vaccines

hehehe, relying on media stories….

looks like they weren’t imbibing at the fount of wisdom known as EZFKA.com!

choose the wrong media at your peril….

lswchp

Any gummint that derived its policy from the content of this forum would cause enormous benefit for the country, and they’d be in power for ever.

Seriously, this is (largely) where the sensible people are.

Jam

Brother in law is one of advisors to the chief health officer in UK. He is the genomics dude He’s socially awkward and I have no faith in his advice.

Jam

Actually deputy chief scientist in that field.

plaguerat

Thanks for that.

I’ve just added those two papers to my growing list of “oh, shit!” papers.

Since it’s pissing rain here, I’m going to settle down with a nice red, and enjoy reading them.

Having said that, I hasten to add that I derive no pleasure from the fact that so many individuals, several close friends, have now unwittingly exposed themselves to this sort of danger.

c’est la vie, I guess.

lswchp

My Missus was forced to get three jabs to stay employed. Cunts.

She caught Covid in July, and (at my urging) told her bosses that if they mandated a 4th jab she’d refuse, and they’d have to sack her. She’s a very quiet person and all round cooperative good citizen, so the suits were well surprised by this sudden display or rebelliousness.

Many of her triple jabbed colleagues, all whom had also had the bug, were motivated by her example, and passed the same advice up their food chains.

It’s good to see the proles sticking it to the man every now and then.

Sadly, she still had the jabs, as did my three children. So now I face the prospect of outliving my woman and perhaps my children, having no grandchildren due to Vax induced infertility etc etc.

If those things come to pass, the bodies of those responsible will never be found.

Aussie Soy Boy

Nah you’ll sit and take it like you did when she got the experimental medicine the first three times.

Jam

My better half/ CEO has had as many jabs as been on offer as a medico. Mandatory. I said I would support her if she decided to sacrifice her job.

I told her if she thinks the sprogs are getting the jab. Think again. Two healthy cunts we have. I said I feel extremely strongly about this and will not concede….

Love my boys…

Roger Dodger

Same situation for me LSWCHP. I’m worried and furious having pondered the same awful outcomes for my better-half and our offspring – and the possible lack-of or damaged future progeny.

I’m the only one in my entire extended family who called bullshit on this and refused all of the MagicJuices™… and I put my job on the line and didn’t submit.

Only two (of many a dozen) friends remain unvaxxed; two of whom now regret and outright resent it. A small percentage of the rest suspect I’m maybe onto something (yet are happy to have caved).

Most though, are the TV- and sport- imbibing antithesis of critical-thinking – it’s farking mind-numbing. All are simply variations on your classic (if loveable) EZFKA unit.

Wife took two jabs though says that she won’t have more to stay employed when I pressed her on it (I was happy for her to quit before having any); sadly, she will still cave to visit her late 90s gran.

My kids all caved for work. All said, I’m farkin’ furious.

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T

lol…

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T

So apparently this bloke is super based, and keeps dropping red pills in class. His kids love him, but the school board hates him, so he is hitting back by mocking the trans thing with the ginormous fake tits.

If true, respect on the dedication lol…

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A fly in your ointment

I read about this one few days ago, then it looked not as a sarcasm or satire. If indeed what you say, I agree that overexaggeration is the way to bend their own wielding Schwanz into their own rectum for the effect.

plaguerat

On the other hand:

School sides with viral transgender teacher

A Canadian school board has defended a trans teacher after students and parents complained about her oversized prosthetic bust

https://www.rt.com/news/563317-canada-school-transgender-teacher/

A different take on the same tits 🙂

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Angus Jung

I hope he’s taking the piss, the whole thing is discombobulating me

plaguerat

Better be careful there……you might end up with a visit from the woke police.

You see…he is not a he….he is a she….and you better remember that 🙂

Kayla Lemieux, who identified as Steven Hanna earlier this year, is a manufacturing technology teacher at Oakville-Trafalgar High School in Ontario, Canada. After her transition she started to draw complaints from students and parents over her appearance as she wore fake synthetic breasts that almost completely cover her entire torso and abdomen.

See rt link above.

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Angus Jung

He’ll always be “Stevo” to me.

Stewie

Few know.

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Stewie

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Stewie

The destruction of Hirschfield’s work, as trans musician and activist C.N. Lester writes, “set the emerging LGBT rights movement back by decades”.

https://theconversation.com/trans-rights-and-political-backlash-five-key-moments-in-history-187476

The 1920s and early ’30’s looked like the beginning of the end for centuries of gay intolerance. Then came fascism and the Nazis.

https://theconversation.com/how-the-nazis-destroyed-the-first-gay-rights-movement-80354

Weird how it is was the evil Nazis’ that were the problem, and not political and social over-reach by a bunch of perverts, intent on preaching their LBGT as an ‘Aspirational Lifestyle’ towards children.

It was this social ground swell generated by the LGBT movement and the progressive wokesters of the day, that finally provoked a visceral reaction of disgust by ordinary decent, family orientated people, let alone socially conservative people.

These were people who would have rather been left alone to enjoy life than forced to pay attention and finally ignore the msm and manufactured public opinion, to vote for a populist party.

To me a socially tolerant society is one where what people do behind closed doors or private bars, is left up to the imagination or those attending.

Nothing wrong with being a ‘life long bachelor with a special male friend’, just don’t wear a dress in public and engage and condone lewd public behavior – and stay away from kids. Left alone plenty enough will turn out gay without any interference from predatory adults motivated by their own base desires.

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T

Apparently there is military vehicles moving all over the place in Europe…

https://twitter.com/SPABG2/status/1573949512258916354

A fly in your ointment

After mobilisation announcement, Ruskies fleeing to the west en masse

https://t.me/AussieCossack/2986

Of not sad it would be funny

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plaguerat

I had heard that the Russian Lada was built like a tank…..but never realised it was quite so literal.

A fly in your ointment

shhhhh…. Lada’s have a secret ‘transformers’ button and if one can find it it becomes a tank.
Hence all the Ruskies always are stuck under the bonnet trying to find it.

Freddy

I recall Adams got extremely excited about the RBAs gold reserves not being properly accounted for, when in reality their total gold reserves are worth about two tenths of bugger all. He also got extremely excited about exposing Perth Mint as being in “default” when in reality they are WA govt guaranteed and there were just some delays in customers receiving withdrawals due to staff shortages.

The fact that he has put in his own money to investigate this one tells me it must at least be more serious than his previous efforts.

T

expand your thinking…

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A fly in your ointment

‘Zdis Leo de Capricioso?

Jam

He’d get a few years mileage out of Greta. Look up the chart of Leo’s age of women he dates.

Illis

nephillim 😀

T

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Aussie Soy Boy

Russia is open to Australians. One way ticket go straight to the draft office. They’ll turn you down on fitness grounds because of your fat guts and thinking you’re some kind of NATO plant, but you can look yourself in the mirror and tel yourself I at least tried.

plaguerat

Obviously spoken by a bloke who has never been to war.

stagmal

the guy in that image is signing up to fight

plaguerat

Actually, he’s applied to sign up:

According to the United Russia statement, applications were also received from Dmitry Khubezov, chairman of the State Duma Committee on Health Protection; Dmitry Sablin, deputy chairman of the Defense Committee; Vitaly Milonov, deputy chairman of the Committee on Family, Women and Children; and Sergei Sokol, deputy chairman of the Committee on Economic Policy and Secretary of the Khakass Regional Branch of United Russia. 

The​ applications will be considered by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the party said. 

Note that the applications will be considered by the Ministry of Defense.
 
A stunt, perhaps? They are, after all, politicians.
 
Either way, if he thinks that going into a shooting war is going to make anyone a “real man”, he needs to talk to somebody who has been in a real shooting war.
 
I’m not taking issue with anybody going to war if they feel a national need to do so.
 
But don’t think for one minute that going to war and experiencing the realities of it are things that make real men….in reality, war turns real men into shattered shadows of their former self.

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Drago

At least he didn’t make up another story about rape or something. Maxwell B’s comment yesterday was pretty spot on.

One thing that is actually funny, is the fact that the media darlings Atlassian have finally been found out…of course we all knew ages ago but the media takes a while to actually go past their own Twitter feed to find a story. God forbid they get fed a line months ago and actually check, rather than take that person on their word.

https://www.afr.com/world/north-america/asx-listed-company-takes-aim-at-atlassian-after-kremlin-blacklisting-20220921-p5bjp9

Agent 47

Well with Mike Cannon Brookes trying to get us to eat bugs and buying up farmland in the NSW tablelands, cunt is basically budget Bill Gates.

Aussie Soy Boy

Diggers have been notorious rapists and degenerates in foreign lands.

The90kwbeast

Again with this. Again a shred of evidence?

Peachy

These days unless one gets written pre-consent to any kind of touching, that is rape.

so I am sure that there has been heaps of rape

Jam

And if your elite. Its in the backdoor. With your little piece.

stagmal

northie is so boring holy shit

Agent 47

I only watch when Tarric Brooker is on because he’s pretty good.

Adams is a sensationalist grift. Edwin Almeida is unlistenable and says the same thing every week. Tony Locantro hasnt had a winning investment in months and brags about being quadruple jabbed.

Mickenbecker isn’t bad and seems to know quite a bit about the bond market so I find him useful. Other than that, Norths channel is repetitive but at least he’s not spruiking.

Florian Heise is the absolute worst and I don’t know why that cunt even bothers making videos. He just reads news articles and then asks for money.

Jam

Ol Florian the enigma, is an architect.

Proper god syndrome.

Ffs my mum watches his vids….

Max Payne

The view counts would agree with your synopsis. Tarric Brooker does actually put some effort into his presentations unlike some of the other guests. The look on Martin’s face sometimes when Edwin goes on one of his incoherent rants is hilarious, you just know he’s thinking to himself can’t you make your f**ken point already.

Agree about Heise Says, he’s basically a low rent Tim Pool.

Hoody

It is really that simple

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Gruppenführer Mark

https://www.rt.com/news/563452-us-australia-china-nuclear-subs/

Amid heightened tensions with China, the administration of US President Joe Biden is looking to expedite the production of nuclear-powered submarines for Australia by building “the first few” vessels on US soil, the Wall Street Journal reported on Friday.

Meanwhile, the proposal is said to have its own issues. The US would reportedly need to spend billions of dollars to expand submarine production capabilities on American soil, although Australia is supposedly expected to contribute to these efforts.

So, we get to help our friends to expand their manufacturing base, while not getting the local jobs, all paid for by the taxpayer.

Brilliant!

Agent 47

Better off leasing a few Virginia class subs for a few years while we develop the capacity here.

But we don’t do that in Australia, unless they plan to build high rise apartments on top of the subs.

Gruppenführer Mark

No, that’s not happening either

https://tinyurl.com/2p8ak5s7

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Agent 47

IMO it’s nothing. Adams is Jewish and a massive attention seeker. Most of his posts are prefsced with “BREAKING” and then turns into the most mundane shit.

I’ll give him credit for the cash ban (which was actually mainly killed off by big money in the NSW and Vic LNP) brother than that the cunt has crowd wolf one too many times.

Sticking his hand out for go fund me cash just screams grift. Anyways, if I’m wrong then fine but I have zero expectations this is going to be anything more than standard financial corruption that goes unpunished.

Coming

Not “John Adams” too ?!

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Agent 47

He is. He’s admitted it a few times on his telegram channel as well.

Other than that, you couldn’t tell from the physiogonmy in the article pic above? Lol

Donkey Hire Albania Pty Ltd

Looks like he’s auditioning for the role of Fagin in Oliver Twist.

Freddy

Cash ban was Robbie Barwick and his CEC party. Adams and North were used by Barwick to help spread the word.

When Morrison released the exposure draft of his bail-in law in 2017, he did so on a Friday afternoon when there would be no media attention. Only a sharp-eyed CEC staffer spotted it and recognised it as bail-in, enabling the CEC to mobilise a massive nationwide campaign against it which continues to this day. 

Morrison is banning cash so Australians can’t escape bail-in, negative interest rates | Citizens Electoral Council (citizensparty.org.au)

A fly in your ointment

I’ll take a bite at guess.

1. he’s uncovered that Llewdo and Bleato take a shower together, obviously because “take this Pootin!” and nuttin else.

2. big Farmasuiticals have colluded to jab everyone with Emma Renay jabbadabba in a clinical trial hence the tyrannical treatments to compel everyone

3. Dutton colluded with Elle Bee Gees Tea community to hide the fact he likes a gentle rub on his bald patch

4. Djoker Nole was deliberately lured in to make an example of where/how unjabbadabba’s end up if they persist unparticipation in the experiment

5. ….

No1

Heard this guy on a gold bug podcast, Liberty and Finance, and turned it off after 15 minutes when it became obvious he wasn’t going to give any details about his big “conspiracy”

A fly in your ointment

party pooper.

just go with it and give your beat shot at what he may be on.
Listening to John Adams is probably painfully less only to listening to North – both could be saying the most exciting thing in the world and they would make it sound boring. Heck, if North was to announce that Scarelt Jonannson finally succumbed to my macho toxicity and was to spend a month in my bedroom, it would still sound suicidally boring.

Nemesis

John Adams has always reminded me of Rob Sitch.

Drago

If we’re talking conspiracy theories, why don’t we know more about the Optus Data Hacker?

Terrorism is so last year, no one cares or funds it anymore. Data hacks and internet financial crime is surely way more common, important to the average EFKA coupon holder etc.

So why can’t the media even ask about it? Easier to harp for the Optus CEO’s scalp, although that’s only half hearted as it’s a female CEO.

Moronic media can’t even ask why Aus Gov hasn’t got the Hacker by the balls already. Must be a victimless crime like the fraud from all those Aboriginal Bodies.

Gruppenführer Mark

Don’t fear, the FBI is here!

Meanwhile, the FBI is joining the Australian Federal Police in probing the alarming incident.

Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus revealed the international cooperation as the group behind the breach scrapped its ransom demand and claimed to have deleted the 11 million customers’ records it scraped from the telco’s website.

Ramjet

Floptus can’t even give us a straight answer about what was stolen and how much was stolen. I only got a generic email from Floptus this morning encouraging me to have heightened awareness.

Gruppenführer Mark

Putin grants citizenship to Snowden

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-27/snowden-edward-vladimir-putin-grants-russian-citizenship/101476062

Right move, I think, although what he did has been described as treason and espionage. I always thought treason and espionage were done covertly, not out in the open, that’s normally called “whistle-blowing”, but I am no expert, just fond of spy novels and such.

But does put things in perspective wrt Assange, a journalist, who was abandoned by its home country, held in somewhat comfortable captivity for years, had assassination plots against him, finally got thrown in jail and is facing extradition for journalistic crimes.

Stewie

From my understanding, other than revealing the evidence of large scale, anti-constitutional domestic spying my US Federal Agencies, to two reporters, Snowdon didn’t actually leak or reveal any sensitive information.

The breach was the revelation of the spying, not the actual information that it was gathering, although he showed it to the reporters (but did not let them keep it) as evidence that it was occurring.

Snowdon released virtually zero information and compromised virtually zero lives, while only revealing large scale and illegal spying by the US Govt.

In contrast Assange released information willy-nilly, not going to any efforts in redacting information least it reveal the identity of US and other foreign assets, and provoke retaliation, putting their lives at risk. In contrast to Snowden, Assange is responsible for many deaths.

In terms of my sympathies, they definitely lie with Snowdon over Assange. If Trump had some cojones then he should have pardoned Snowdon – someone who did much more to fight the deep state enemies of Trump, than the President ever actually did himself. Maybe he thought it carried too much blow back risk should he ever consider re-running for President, regardless I thought he should have pardoned Snowdon and thought less of Trump for it.

The fact with leaders is that you get the ones you get, or who make the effort to make themselves available – Trump had many terrible qualities, he was vane, egotistical, operated in the financial grey zone, and was a prick. I never liked the guy much, never watched the Apprentice or any of his shtick.

The only thing that made him a good president was that he was a long way better than all the alternatives. Why? He put Americans, HIS citizens, first.

LostSocialist

There has been a massive amount of propaganda pushed out about Assange by the western media. This has led to a lot of confusion about what he actually did or did not do. There is unanimous support from the MSM and all western Governments to destroy Assange and Wikileaks as they exposed both as corrupt.

Gruppenführer Mark

It is pretty difficult to come up with something that tastes as good as a steak or bacon but made out of grass (or whatever they use).

The only thing that we as a race have started to nail down in the fake department is breast augmentation, and not even that area is 100% consistent in the outcomes. And diamonds, we did learn to grow some in the lab.

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/fake-meat-sales-plummet-high-prices-woke-messaging

Peachy

If fake meat was half as good as breast augmentation, it would be quite alright.

the problem with fake meat, is that it tastes like shit and it is expensive. So why the hell would I?!

it is fucken nuts to have tried to market it as a “premium” product, when it is clearly far inferior.
should have gone the other way – started at the bottom of the market (cheap, and though not really tasty – tolerable for the price), then tried to move upmarket as and when they learned how to make it taste good on its own, or developed more apt cooking techniques or recipes.

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A fly in your ointment

(or whatever they use).

soylent green?

Coming

how about trannies?

fake women
some of them are pretty good, or so I hear

Gruppenführer Mark

Officially,

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Donkey Hire Albania Pty Ltd

how about trannies?

I was raped by one it hurt very much plz avoid

Drago

Are you sure it wasn’t an Australian soldier? According to Soyboy they’re each raping at 1,000 per hour on each deployment?

Coming

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/26/australian-soldier-alleges-torture-survival-course-involved-simulated-child-and-left-him-with-ptsd

“It was a little girl and basically he told me to simulate raping the doll with this dildo … he grabbed my hands and started doing the motion himself with my hands with a dildo and the doll,” De Pyle said.

Yes I’m sure these seem like healthy people that would be very unlikely to rape anybody on deployment

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Drago

I guess I feel bad for some young people, I mean who would know sometimes?

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Agent 47

And the nord stream pipelines were both cut off the Danish coast.

Escalation a plenty. Stagmal might want to weigh in here.

Gruppenführer Mark

I am no staggsy, but I’ll have a go.

NS1 and NS2 had a combined capacity of about 110B cu m, with total volume of EU imports of Russian gas of about 180B cu m. Previously, both pipelines were fully charged, so all the EU had to do is crack open the valve. Now both pipelines require some sort of repair, which can take time and be expensive.

Failure of both pipelines at the same spot is highly suspicious. Sabotage is plausible. I’d think that EU, and Germany in particular, wouldn’t be behind this accident, as the only sources left for them are: transit of gas through Ukraine (not a very reliable option, if you ask me), or LNG from the USA and Qatar. This will necessarily drive the price of LNG up, bankrupting the EU economy further to the benefit of USA. Somehow I don’t see Qatar being responsible for the accident, they probably lack the ability to carry it out. So this leaves one probable suspect.

Just my opinion, I have no way to prove or disprove any conclusions made above.

plaguerat

I’d add to that Gruppenführer.

Denmark and Poland are NATO members, and Sweden is about to join the club.

Denmark, Poland, and Sweden all have navies.

The section of the lines leaking is very close to all three countries.

The Nordstream pipelines are in 80-110 metres of water…..if the area of damage is in the shallower water, then it is within easy reach of a quick mixed-gas dive…..if deeper, then the more complex saturation diving may be required.

Alternatively any depth could be tackled by a ROV.

Damaging the lines could be achieved by any number of means once the concrete weight-coat is removed…..shape charge, drill, or Broco rod.

There is another alternative….geological movement.

If both line are damaged in much the same area, it could be due to seabed movement……although a quick Google check indicates that the area is reasonably geologically stable. But earthquakes are not unknown in the area.

It could also due to internal corrosion of the pipeline….although the chance of that happening in three places at once are…..well…….

If it was sabotage, a quick dive (human or ROV) is all it will take to determine.

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plaguerat

Scrap the Broco rod…..I forgot the lines had line pack 🙂

Gruppenführer Mark

According to what I read, NS2 was damaged first. NS1 after. Given that NS2 is the newer line – a year or so old, geological event would have likely damaged the older pipe first?

plaguerat

Not necessarily….depends on the seabed features at the points of damage….newer line might be sitting on a seabed feature subject to greater movement.

plaguerat

Like so:

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plaguerat

“According to what I read, NS2 was damaged first”

It’s possible that the damage to both lines occurred at the same time…….it seems that there was a slight time differential between the reporting of the leaks:

Sweden’s Maritime Authority issued a warning about two leaks in the Nord Stream 1 pipeline, shortly after a leak on the nearby Nord Stream 2 pipeline was discovered that had prompted Denmark to restrict shipping in a five nautical mile radius.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/kremlin-sabotage-cannot-be-ruled-out-reason-nord-stream-damage-2022-09-27/#:~:text=The%20pipelines%20have%20a%20constant,of%20around%2080%2D110%20metres.

Gruppenführer Mark

And now Swedes report explosions

https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/damage-nord-stream-pipelines-unprecedented-may-have-been-sabotaged

Something to consider. If NS1 & 2 belong to Russia, at least partially, does this mean an open season for accidents at other installations, such as oil and gas pipelines (oil would be bad, as it will unleash an environmental disaster, gas, I assume, will dissipate into atmosphere), underwater cables, etc.?

plaguerat

Beginning to look like this conflict has just taken a whole new turn.

Peachy

All your pipes are belong to us!

Peachy

only sources left for them are: transit of gas through Ukraine (not a very reliable option, if you ask me), or LNG from the USA and Qatar. This will necessarily drive the price of LNG up, bankrupting the EU economy further to the benefit of USA. Somehow I don’t see Qatar being responsible for the accident, they probably lack the ability to carry it out. So this leaves one probable suspect.

Straya!

Gruppenführer Mark

Shipping costs would not be competitive methinks.

A fly in your ointment

not for long, wait for the price of the lng in EU to ratchet up… at least for those that have all their options blown up aand will now pay any price to have some heat.

EU has another option: Turk Stream. its capacity is insufficient to replace NS1 but it may suffice if a new EU directive makes it illegal to heat homes instead up to 19°C to a new level of up to 16°C.

Well, there is a new gas pipeline – Norway to Poland – that just went live on the day of the NS1 & 2 accidents. Coincidence.

Some more quotes (sourced from Zerohedge):

European Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen confirmed the Nord Stream pipeline system leaks were caused by “sabotage”

Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen described the three separate leaks on NS1 and NS2 as “deliberate acts,” adding: “It’s hard to imagine that it’s accidental.”

A former Polish Defense Minister, Radek Sikorski, has attributed to the United States the sabotage of two pipelines, Nord Stream 1 and 2, which carry natural gas from Russia to Germany. “Thank you, USA,” Sikorski wrote on Twitter.

But wait! The blame is getting pinned on… you guessed it, Russia!

Poland’s PM, Mateusz Morawiecki, laid the blame on Russia for targeting the pipelines – suggesting that the attack was an attempt to escalate the Ukraine conflict.

If the CIA warned about this in advance, it is clearly not them.

And then there was some activity by the US Navy in the area – the Kearsarge Amphibious Ready Group, that is mentioned here (specificaly mentions Danish Straights on 21 Sept, so puts the ARG in the vicinity) and here (this one is paywalled but you can see the start of the article talking about military exercises).

I am convinced, evil Pootine did it!

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Peachy

If the CIA warned about this in advance, it is clearly not them.

could be reverse psychology – they warned about before they did it, so we’d all think it’s not them.

Coming

Why are we even arguing about this

US is the only one with motive to do this

US is the one with the means to do it without getting discovered (you don’t think they have satellite surveillance of the area?)

Biden literally threatened to blow it up a few months ago

anyone who honestly thinks Russia did it is deeply deeply deranged

Peachy

US is the one with the means to do it without getting discovered (you don’t think they have satellite surveillance of the area?)

have they any lasers mounted on sharks?

Aussie Soy Boy

No yank should exist outside of its borders. Even the anti American ones are scum.

They are filth and scum. Aussies even worse as a puppet state to them just no honour. Not even a country US foreign policy and UK head of state. Plus Aussie diggers are notorious rapists, murderers, torturers.

Peachy

No yank should exist outside of its borders. Even the anti American ones are scum.

They are filth and scum. Aussies even worse as a puppet state to them just no honour

sorry mate, but the reality is that unless you are yourself a formidable power, you have to choose a nation that is a formidable power and align yourself with it. It has always been this. Suzerainty is not new.

and while we be choosing, I sure as hell would choose the Americans over the Chinese or russkies

Aussie Soy Boy

That’s the whole American unipolar view of the world. I suppose when you spend the last 6 decades being one of the yanks most loyal puppets standing side by side with them as they loot, rape and murder there way through Asia and the Middle East you make a lot of long lasting enemies. The head of state is King Charles for fucks sake is there are more sad excuse for a country in the world.

Peachy

I don’t think it is unipolar.

it is just a view that says as bad as USA is, the other mobs (of comparable power) are worse.

and you probably think so too, despite your protestations…. After all, rather than living in a USA vassal state like EZFKA, you could go live in a state that is a Chinese vassal (North Korea?) or a Russian vassal (Belorussia?). Or even in China or Russia themselves….

Gruppenführer Mark

I think the difference is the posturing of various mobs of comparable power on the world stage.

USA have been positioning itself as world police for the last 60 (?) years. All started in earnest after WWII. Just a couple of examples: Operation Gladio and Eisenhower’s secret plan to invade Italy.

I have to be careful with links, as the post usually gets relegated to “moderation required” pile.

USA has lots of military installations all over the world, and has a well-documented history of meddling in other countries’ affairs – look up Killing Hope by William Blum. Unipolar world led by the USA is a often-stated goal, where they get to define the meaning of the global rules-based order, and they are also the ones who get to set the rules, and enforce those (with help from its allies).

Russia and China, on the other hand, are not in the same game – yet. They state their desire for a multipolar world.

As far as some of the allies go, yes, USA does have some nice ones, Australia being one of them. North Korea – not so nice. But I bet I could enjoy Belarus. They seem to have more social order, and their prez, the last dictator in Europe before Putin got that crown, is very interested in a solid economy, and has an uncanny ability to move between the West and Russia for his, and his country’s, benefit.

Living in USA – no, thank you. The country is falling apart, I read somewhere that 40% of its population expects a civil war in the next decade. Not my idea of a happy place. Plus racial tensions, woke agenda, gun culture.

Living in China is not for me either, although I haven’t been, but the sheer number of people is enough to put me off the idea, i enjoy my most remote capital city in the world, thankyouverymuch.

Russia I am undecided on. From everything I read, there is a very clear upper class, and a numerous poor class. Middle class is there, but it is more of an upper echelon of the lower class, rather than a class of its own. Corruption as well, but it exists in USA, China, Australia, it is just more overt in Russia and China, I believe.

A fly in your ointment

and while we be choosing, I sure as hell would choose the Americans over the Chinese or russkies

Not really a choice dilemma there as there are other options, like treading the borderline for one.
Aus is naturally aligned with its original master who’s flag we feature on our own. That cannot change significantly. What can change is aspiring to values that come from the old world rather than to the current thing.

Ah, I missed a link

https://twitter.com/shellenbergermd/status/1574826293677285376

Peachy, of course it is reverse psychology.

Coming, I should have added a sarc tag. If not US, then UK.

A fly in your ointment

nonsense, Ruskies did it so that they can blame yanks. it is a strategic move, what else???

Peachy

Peachy, of course it is reverse psychology.

oh sorry, I’m usually not so dumb as to miss overt sarcasm and pisstaking taking…🤭

A fly in your ointment

I am convinced, evil Pootine did it!

who else?

in his next assault on EU values, he will blow up his own oil rigs and wells just to name a few

Ramjet

Not enough ships and would require all LNG ships to transport gas to Europe.

Coming

https://twitter.com/abc/status/1490792461979078662?s=46&t=mE-Wb9rXsmKjx0Ra4YZ40A

here is Biden on live television threatening to blow up nordstream 2

so yeah the USA did it lol

Agent 47

There’s also this

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A fly in your ointment

Why bother rambling when someone coherent did it better than thyself.

This is war on EU and Europe

https://rumble.com/v1lor3t-2022-09-27-the-americans-declared-war-on-europe.html

https://rumble.com/c/c-1913107

A fly in your ointment

And then this from Speculator.com.au

https://spectator.com.au/2022/09/did-russia-sabotage-its-own-pipelines/

Not one single fact to support the claim, only ad nauseum repetition of “Him bad, he must’ve done it, who else???”

Peachy

Much hyperbole there. Bloke carries on likeUS wants Europeans to freeze and starve and die.

not a bit of it. They (or whoever did it) have just slightly adjusted the relative prices of Russian gas vs non-Russian gas.

Europe will still be able to get all the gas it wants. But the “bring it in by sea” option which previously appeared a bit expensive (compared to taking a quick drag on the Russian pipe) now appears quite palatable.

that’s all.

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Gruppenführer Mark

Gonzalo Lira is a suspect. I’ve been pointed in his direction a few months back, appears that there are accusations of him swindling Steve Keen’s website and income from it. Then this dude goes to Kharkov (still under Ukraine), reports massive amounts of anti-Ukraine propaganda, supposedly gets arrested by the secret service, gets released, and is still in Kharkov pushing anti-Ukraine propaganda.

Something doesn’t stack up for me.

Peachy