Weekend Links, 4-5 September 2021

Hi everyone and welcome back to the Weekend Links for 4-5 September 2021. We have lots of exciting stuff for you all today, and we will be starting out with this contribution from Neel Kolhatkar.

He wants you to vote for Charlie D as PM, and realistically, Charlie D seems to have a good plan for EZFKA.

Or at least understands what EZFKA is all about. Something like that…

Charles D for PM!

Kinda fits the vibe of this place too 🙂

~~Covid Making All The Headlines, Again~~

Appeared across the street from the Chinese Embassy in San Fran… apparently on 30th August 2021.
Are you a jab-lover?

So the big fear is that the vaccine causes ADE. Where is this coming from? Here – The SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant is poised to acquire complete resistance to wild-type spike vaccines | bioRxiv – but with luck these scientists are totally wrong. Or something…

Does anyone know if the below is true?

Been trending last week or so? Fake news does anyone know?

~~Oddly Satisfying~~

Top 100 Awesomenesses!

~~Aussie Aussie Aussie, Oi Oi Oi~~

So there has been quite a pro-Aussie trucker meme’s being created worldwide in the usual dodgy places.

Rising Tide?
Or Not…
Vote One Nation?
Go Melbourne!
Vegemite and Tim Tams!
What he did!

Ok – so clearly we are not suggesting that you should (a) take the vaccine, (b) not take the vaccine. Do what you think works for you.

For me, I’m not taking the vaccine, because I don’t trust the propaganda around it. But I’m also in the least likely to have a fatal Covid issue age group, so I’m making the choice that works for me. You do you.

Clearly lots of people feel strongly one way or the other. The above is meme’s I liked, and should not be taken as anything more than a record of social stressors we are currently living through.

Heil Shitler!
Fuck it one more!


No horse-paste for you!

Is Ivermectin any good for you? Or is it just horse paste and could kill you.

In 2015, the Nobel Committee for Physiology or Medicine, in its only award for treatments of infectious diseases since six decades prior, honoured the discovery of ivermectin (IVM), a multifaceted drug deployed against some of the world’s most devastating tropical diseases. 

Ivermectin: a multifaceted drug of Nobel prize-honoured distinction with indicated efficacy against a new global scourge, COVID-19 – ScienceDirect

So what should you do? If I’m reading the information war correctly, essentially any anti-parasitic should help with Covid. No idea why, but it seems to be the elephant in the room. Again, do your own research and take a decision which works for you and your family.

Evil mass murderer, murdering people using his favorite torture method – gas-lighting!


Are You Living an Insta Lie? Social Media Vs. Reality


But muh Port Arthur!

So what is going on in Afghanistan? Hard to say given all the fog of war, but here are some meme’s which made me smile. Apparently the Taliban can meme, unlike the left. Practical people suggest its all coming out of Al-Jazeera HQ in Doha, but that could just be malicious slander.

Still better memesmiths than leftists!



This seemed oddly fitting, and amusing at the same time…

Maybe Greek women don’t want to be culturally enriched?

This linguistic kill shot – to paraphrase Scott Adams – is pretty accurate!


Elon getting in on the fun…

What about the Mu variant?

Milley looking stupid…

My precious!!!

What do I think is happening?

Hard to say, but pretty convinced that you are watching a movie. Lets see how it plays out.

For my money, the world is giving the Taliban a chance, but the real game is in Washington, heh, it was not known as Rome on the Potomac for no reason lol…

If it looks like a movie… it may just be one.

~~Benghazi Redux~~

So oddly, in the aftermath of the Afghan debacle, which might not be a debacle, the below started to do the rounds. Who knows, but it rings true and has gone viral faster than one would expect. So another front of the Invisible War.

So here’s the REAL story: Ambassador Stevens was sent to Benghazi to secretly retrieve US made Stinger Missiles that the State Dept had supplied to Ansar al Sharia in Libya WITHOUT Congressional oversight or permission.

Sec State Hillary Clinton had brokered the Libya deal through Ambassador Stevens and a Private Arms Dealer named Marc Turi, but some of the shoulder fired Stinger Missiles ended up in Afghanistan where they were used against our own military. On July 25th, 2012, a US Chinook helicopter was downed by one of them. Not destroyed only because the idiot Taliban didn’t arm the missile. The helicopter didn’t explode, but it had to land and an ordnance team recovered the missile’s serial number which led back to a cache of Stinger Missiles kept in Qatar by the CIA.

Obama and Hillary were in full panic mode, so Ambassador Stevens was sent to Benghazi to retrieve the rest of the Stinger Missiles. This was a “do-or-die” mission, which explains the Stand Down Orders given to multiple rescue teams during the siege of the US Embassy.

It was the State Dept, NOT the CIA, that supplied the Stinger Missiles to our sworn enemies because Gen. Petraeus at CIA would not approve supplying the deadly missiles due to their potential use against commercial aircraft. So then, Obama threw Gen. Petraeus under the bus when he refused to testify in support of Obama’s phony claim of a “spontaneous uprising caused by a YouTube video that insulted Muslims.”

Obama and Hillary committed TREASON!

THIS is what the investigation is all about, WHY she had a Private Server, (in order to delete the digital evidence), and WHY Obama, two weeks after the attack, told the UN that the attack was the result of the YouTube video, even though everyone KNEW it was not.

Furthermore, the Taliban knew that the administration had aided and abetted the enemy WITHOUT Congressional oversight or permission, so they began pressuring (blackmailing) the Obama Administration to release five Taliban generals being held at Guantanamo.

Bowe Bergdahl was just a useful pawn used to cover the release of the Taliban generals. Everyone knew Bergdahl was a traitor but Obama used Bergdahl’s exchange for the five Taliban generals to cover that Obama was being coerced by the Taliban about the unauthorized Stinger Missile deal.

So we have a traitor as POTUS that is not only corrupt, but compromised, as well and a Sec of State that is a serial liar, who perjured herself multiple times at the Congressional Hearings on Benghazi. Perhaps this is why no military aircraft were called upon for help in Benghazi: because the administration knew that our enemies had Stinger Missiles that, if used to down those planes, would likely be traced back to the CIA cache in Qatar and then to the State Dept’s illegitimate arms deal in Libya.

Forward this again and again and again until everyone reads the true story of Benghazi…

No idea if true. But possibly true. Who knows?

~~Smart People Being Smart~~

Stephen Wolfram has very British teeth!

~~Culture Wars~~

HuMan has fantastic production value. And the content isn’t bad either!


Yeah… clearly Bidan won the election! From Aug 22 I think…
Wait… aw bollocks I knew it!
  • Terminator is getting cancelled. What a tragedy…
“I’ll Be Back”, will he though?
  • Leftists are getting upset…
Are you sure?
  • Which is leading to…
Interesting choice of placard?

~~Written In The Stars~~

SEPTEMBER 2021 Monthly Horoscope All Signs

00:00:00 Intro 00:08:21 Aries 00:20:11 Taurus 00:32:15 Gemini 00:42:44 Cancer 00:53:50 Leo 01:04:35 Virgo 01:17:23 Libra 01:30:16 Scorpio 01:43:03 Sagittarius 01:55:45 Capricorn 02:05:58 Aquarius 02:20:26 Pisces

~~World War 3: Invisible War Edition~~

The Left is panicking about California. Assume this is funded by the CCP.


This started to trend, so someone made a meme…


Its Ma’am!!!

Have A Good Weekend Everyone!

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“With Labor’s support, an Australian government law giving police unprecedented powers to spy on criminal suspects online, interrupt their data, and take over their accounts was passed.
Despite worries about the low bar for who can issue a warrant and the government’s failure to adopt all of the protections proposed by the bipartisan joint committee on intelligence and security, the Senate passed the identify and disrupt bill on Wednesday.”


I can’t see any coverage of this in the mainstream press. I guess people don’t care because of… COVID. Or basically no one gives a crap? Because if you’re not doing anything wrong you’ve got nothing to hide.

Agent 47

Until it directly affects them.

This is basically the regime saying they can frame anyone. Unbelievable but not really given how totalitarian the country has become.


I reckon the CSA was the initial testing ground for all this. It showed that they can raid bank accounts and stop passports and intercept pay and nobody will do anything that matters about it.


I had a furious rant to my missus about this last week. Unfortunately it didn’t affect the passage of the bill.


Lost it at Charles D’s universal debt/voting idea. Can’t say I don’t like it!


I see that Auckland has had some vibrancy today…..


Good on ‘em. Helps keep the house prices on skates, I reckon!

Agent 47

Jacinda will ban knives in response.


These types of comments shit me

‘What happened today was despicable, hateful and wrong,’ she said. ‘It was carried out by an individual, not a faith or religion. He was gripped by violent and ISIS inspired ideology that is not supported here.’

What the fuck does the first I stand for, for fuckin fuck’s sake.



You’d think the name “Islamic State” would be a bit of a clue, eh? But no, the vermin in charge takes us for imbeciles and piss in our pockets, telling it has nothing to do with Islam

This shit has everything to do with Islam.


And is she actually saying that NZ Islam is better that ISIS islam?


Yeah. She’d have you believe that no NZ Muslims want to kill random strangers in the name of their religion….except for….uh…those that actually do so.

Two things happen when there is a Muslim terror attack…

1. The rulers tell us “This has nothing to do with Islam. These people have hijacked a great and beautiful and peaceful religion,”

2. There is huge bloviation about the potential for “backlash” against Muslims…which never happens.

Reading that, you’d think the real victims of such attacks are the Muslims quivering in fear of backlash, rather than the…you know…people maimed and killed by Muslims.

Fuck I hate Islam and it’s worthless adherents.


Are we living in a simulation ?

I just had massive de ja vu

did you post a similar comment and use the word bloviation during a previous Muslim terror attack?

I am a bit disturbed by this sensation


I have never used that word, and am unlikely to.

In the event you were referring to me.


I don’t recall doing so, but it’s possible.


I’ve googled it and you (and only you) have used the word several times in the MB comments section

who do you work for ?
5 eyes?

take the microchip out of my head and I promise I won’t make any more trouble


Not a commonly used word but have seen it on comments sites like Whirlpool from time to time.


It’s a favourite word that I like to use sparsely.


Fuck me

“Please remember that the ISIS-inspired terrorist is no more representative of Muslim Kiwis than the Australian white supremacist who murdered people in the Christchurch mosque attacks,” she tweeted.


Agent 47

Self loathing whites will eat it up.

A fly in your ointment

If you look elsewhere, claims of alegiance and claims of belonging to something (or not) is the normal way of life. Roman catolicism introduced redemption via donations which spurred the rise of the vatican – nothing to do with christianity.
I can go on and on with similar stuff.
Claim that something is “something” is not equal to something indeed being that something.

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Agent 47

Two highlights of the week for mine:

1.The freakouts of Joe Rogan beating covid with Ivermectin and a vitamin drip and everyone calling it horse medicine, when its for human use (human and vetinary versions) and the inventor won a Nobel prize for it.

2. Booster shots already arrived in Israel and the situation has deteriorated to the extent that two countries have banned Israelis from travelling there, including Sweden.


Not to worry. They’ll be welcome here when the border open up because you know the vaccine makes you immune.


There’s been some research on Fluvoxamine for Covid treatment.


Haven’t seen this being talked about too much even though the Lenze study was published last year (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33180097/). I guess a lot would view psych drugs as being part of a big pharma conspiracy so they might be naturally avoidant.

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The NSW Gestapo justifying the taking of political prisoners,
aka NSW police justifying using fixated persons unit on a journalist.


How good was latham honestly

What a shame he didnt win the PM

He was trump 10 years before Trump


I’m a big fan of Mr Latham. He’s an oddball, but he speaks truth to power, and I like that.


I read his stuff on facebook. Don’t agree with everything he says but often do. Has a good sense of humour too.


If you haven’t seen this, see it now. It’s mandatory. No excuses. Even my lefty woman thought it was gold.



tjanks for the encouragement. I liked it.

Agent 47

Not a massive fan of the CFMEU but I have noticed that since Setka came out against vaccines and said it was a personal choice, the press is running hit piece after hit piece.

Not a coincidence in my book. Sure he still may be a POS person but I think its politically motivated.



The media control the narrative – either you keep in line or they will unrelentingly punish you.


Here’s the straightest and clearest shit about the current state of the bug and the vaccine you’ll ever hear, from a guy who should know.

Amidst all the back and forth by blowhards and internet tough guys, watch this all the way through and reflect upon it. I’d be interested in the thoughts of fellow EZFKA units on this video.



Two political issues in regards to vaccination:

  1. Opening up before everyone has had the opportunity to get vaccinated is political suicide. Not just for the upcoming election, but probably for the next few elections.
  2. Hospitals overflowing with Covid patients is also political suicide. Don’t be dismayed when we lockdown again after everyone vaccinated. We are almost certainly going to fumble our way with the original “flatten the curve” idea to prevent hospitals overflowing.

In regards to forced vaccinations, I see it related to #2. Even though a vaccinated person can transmit, they are still less likely to end up in hospital.

Agent 47

Yeh Israel is proving that redundant


Stop reading fake news sites. It is around 60% and when the data is properly analysed it still shows efficacy:

Israeli data: How can efficacy vs. severe disease be strong when 60% of hospitalized are vaccinated? (covid-datascience.com)

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That still means very little difference in vax vs un-vax as their vax rate is around 60-70% anyway, so almost one for one vaxed vs un-vaxed


Read the link. Vaccination rates are heavily skewed to the elderly. An elderly vaccinated person still more likely to end up in hospital than a young unvaccinated person.

When the data is analysed by age group the vaccine shows high efficacy amongst all age groups.


Excellent data table. Drives a bulldozer through the selective statistic grabbing of the anti vax crowd.


You calling this an “excellent data table” tells me you don’t know much about data or tables


Why don’t you fuck off and not presume to know anything about me instead?


What it does show is that being vaccinated may not be rational for anyone under 40 as their risk for “severe case” is very low regardless of vax status and may be lower than their risk of severe vaccine side effects

in fact it may not even be rational from a public health perspective, let alone an individual one

its deliberately misleading in that “efficacy” is being made to correspond with relative risk , instead of absolute

additionally the overall table is too simplistic with age being the only stratifying risk factor included

Obesity and other health factors may be even more important than age

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A couple weeks ago you published even more general stats from the UK, and admitted the vaccines work especially for over 50s. And here, instead of the addressing the mathematically inept assertions that “vaccines don’t work at all” you nitpick on the misuse of the word “efficacy”.


Don’t see why the first condition is mutually exclusive

the vaccine is beneficial for over 50s
and dubious for under 40s

why are you unable to appreciate even the most basic nuance ?

and the chart is designed to be misleading – pointing that out is hardly “nit picking”


I am not disagreeing with you. The effectiveness of the vaccine seems to rise exponentially with age. Under 30s minimal benefit, over 50s definitely worth getting vaccinated, a bit of grey for ages in between.

I am questioning your decision to deflect instead of addressing the assertion that stats in Israel suggest vaccines don’t work at all.

Last edited 2 years ago by Freddy

I’ve been reading Einstein and learning about relativity.

maybe the vaccine effectiveness isn’t rising exponentially. Maybe it’s standing still. Maybe what’s changing is the risks associated with the infection…?

(and I’m not disagreeing with you either)

Last edited 2 years ago by Peachy

It is semantics. The efficacy is possibly constant or thereabouts throughout the entire age range. The number of lives saved (or hospitalisations avoided) by the vaccine rises exponentially with age in line with exponential risks of the virus itself.

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do I have to address every incorrect assertion here?

you’ve already addressed it , then implied some of your own with that chart

then you claimed “high efficacy for all age groups”

which is highly misleading if not frankly incorrect

Last edited 2 years ago by Coming

You’re an argumentative twat.

Last edited 2 years ago by The90kwbeast

Way to overcomplicate the most straightforward of analysis. Yes the table excludes those factors but what do you want, a 40 row table listing each and every possibility? Health and co morbidities combined?

You’re attacking my opinion of the table then reflecting on the answers it provides. Hmm.


I’ve explained the problems with the table, and provided previously expansive commentary on the answers

you have added absolutely nothing of substance to this discussion


No you’ve just obfuscated a reasonably straightforward analysis by saying other factors aren’t presented as part of it and proceeded to debate others on what is omitted from the table. But the table itself is correct.

We all know there are other issues at plays such as co morbidities and vaccine risk, genius.

Last edited 2 years ago by The90kwbeast

Exactly. It is the obfuscation. Believes over 50s should get vaccinated then discourages those same people with obfuscation. The self-proclaimed “only rational person”.

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I believe over 50s should be vaccinated in general

under 40s should not UNLESS they have other risk factors

which are not accounted for in your table

which also claims absurdly high “effectiveness” for all age groups, using some meaningless concocted definition


So you agree with the article that the vaccine works. Thanks.

I recall that last week you were claiming AZ more effective than Pfizer based on sample sizes which contained 4 deaths in total. Please give us another lecture on the correct use of data.

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I’ve always believed the vaccine “works” to some extent

i will provide a substantive comparison of Pfizer and az if anyone is genuinely interested, not just point scoring

but the main reason I chose AZ was not efficacy , but because it has a better safety profile
Particularly for young men


I am interested in the vaccine comparison. Cheers.

I didn’t totally trust either vaccine tbh. Pfizer being largely experimental (although probably overstated given the amount of people that have already taken it), and AZ being a genetically modified virus. I would have preferred Novavax.


Well covid is a genetically modified virus as well

so what’s the difference – you’re getting it whether you like it or not


I am interested in the vaccine comparison. Cheers

me too

A fly in your ointment

 I’d be interested in the thoughts of fellow EZFKA units on this video.

it is debunked, he did not invent mrna vax hence he has no clue what he is talking about. logical answer, mrSmithy agrees so it must be true


I skimmed “The Extinction Of Gold Derivatives”. Didn’t seem to make any mention of options on gold ETFs, which presumably are still fine.


It’s good to see the cops in the LGA:s of concern are doing everything possible to prevent covid spreading….

Agent 47

Deliciously ironic given the attitude towards LGBTQ by demographics in those LGA’s generally speaking.

Agent 47

A lot of these short illnesses happening lately


Pretty creepy eh? As I’ve mentioned previously, two of my colleagues have died in the last few months, without even a short illness. Just failed to show up at work, and then the families called the office.

And the elderly father of another friend had a stroke on Thursday. I know, he was old and old people have strokes, but he had his jab 6 weeks ago and now he’s rooted. Probably just a coincidence, yeah?

Agent 47

Same mate. One death, one hasn’t come back to work and now another allegedly has myocarditis (he’s 35 with two kids) and that has a mortality rate of 65% in the first five years.

And here I am waiting to get sacked and cast into untermensch status because no one gave a shit what i was vaccinated for before covid. Laugh or you’ll cry.

Chinese Astroturfer

The vaccine needs to be taken 3 possibly 4 times per year in order for someone to remain classified as ‘vaccinated’, so what is the cumulative toll 3-4 of these injections every year for 5, 10, 20 years, let alone what the hell is it doing in the short term.

If there were 20 years of data showing no real adverse effects I’d be happy taking it, but for a virus unlikely to take given the precautions I’m prepared to take and virtually no chance of dying from it, I’d rather not be bullied and extorted into taking this vaccine not that anyone can do anything to me. I’m not like the Coming bloke who needs to shut up and get his jab otherwise he can’t pay for his expensive lifestyle.


are you still mad ?

I can fund my current lifestyle indefinitely without working , given current costs and dividends

I’m just greedy and logical

Agent 47

Israel continues to be a shitfest. DLS will be crying for boosters regardless.



I vaguely remember this story when it came out but recently came across it again:

“Facebook was forced to shut down a pair of chatbots in the social network’s artificial intelligence division after discovering that they had created a secret language all on their own.”

Sort of starts me down the path of some of Elon’s concerns… particularly the part that their bots started lying to each other about ‘liking’ things, in order to improve their bargaining position in the future.


Agent 47

The singularity approaches. I wonder what AI will do if it realises who is really ruining the planet.

The elites may yet get their comeuppance or we will all go down. Probably Skynet.


The US education system is in dire peril from obnoxious progressive ideologues:

“There is no such thing as learning loss,” she responds when asked how her insistence on keeping L.A.’s schools mostly locked down over the last year and a half may have impacted the city’s 600,000 kindergarten through 12th-grade students. “Our kids didn’t lose anything. It’s OK that our babies may not have learned all their times tables. They learned resilience. They learned survival. They learned critical-thinking skills. They know the difference between a riot and a protest. They know the words insurrection and coup.”


This sort of political, activist extremism is at risk of infliltrating our education system and if we’re not careful, we’ll end up with something very similar

This highlights that there will be easy means of ‘turning back the tide’ other than the long slow march, by true believer, back through our institutions and reclaim and retake them from the people that elites have salted the professional and administrative classes of our institutions with.

Quite frankly imho turning back the tide simply won’t work until people like this woman are purged from not only the institutions they have influence over, but from society itself. Gulag the bitch.

Agent 47

Have you seen the school board meetings in Sacramento where they found out an Antifa member was indoctrinating their kids? Wild. Parents from all walks of life furious.


Yeah I’ve seen some clips, not sure if they were the one you were referring to. Was it to do with the AntiFa teacher that recently got fired?

It is good to see so many B&POC stand up to and object to these sort of teachings and attitudes – the only place you ever see them though are clips on twitter. To the mainstream press any African Americans who are against CRT are little more than uncle Tom’s who’ve adopted and internalised ‘whiteness’.

That term is near identical in terms of connotations and the spite with which it is said, as Marxists used to spit out the term ‘Bourgeoise’ only that now it also carries an added racial element of scorn to it…. imho both terms are hostile memes that have originated from a separate cultural pool and identity to our own.

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And people wonder why the private school system has huge waiting list of students who parents have lost all hope in the public system.


There is increasingly no respite there either. Many elite schools in the US are having furious parents trying to spill school boards there, even here there is no safe harbour.

You can see the insidious effects of wokeness in terms of how it has impacted the pedigree of Australian Rugby players, a large number of whom who play at the elite level coming from a private school background.

The Australian rugby team and its treatment of Israel Folau is a prime example. The split between the Islander component, who are all mainly very working class and quite religious in the old school sense vs the private school boys who have been indocrinated… or more should I say, taught, the finer points of what is becoming a new marker of class.

Part of what private schools teach is how to access and behave with the correct social etiquette that the elites are demanding. Make no mistake this CRT and wokeness is more a social filter to keep out and disempower anyone who has objectionable viewpoints, while objectionable viewpoints are increasingly defined as anything that opposes elite determined moralities.


Lots more home schooling these days.


Mate this is the system, in California, that wants to degrade teaching of math because its sexist or some shit….


Found this a pretty cool story on Techno nerdery…. maybe Fusion power isn’t always going to be stuck 7 years away in the future…. maybe it’ll just perpetually be 5 or 3 years away in the future?



that bloke is so naive!!

The fundamental issue is this: Are resources limited or unlimited? If they are limited, then every person is the enemy of every other person, every nation is the enemy of every other nation, every newborn child is a menace, and the key role of government must be to suppress human numbers, activities, and liberties. But if resources are really the unlimited result of human creative activity, then every person is potentially the friend of every other person, every nation can ultimately be the friend of every other nation, every newborn child is a blessing, and the key role of government must be to protect human liberty at all costs.

That’s why we need fusion power, and why it is grand that free enterprise is picking up the challenge.

ehhehe he what a naive Pollyanna.

we already have a situation where there are enough material resources to grant everyone on the planet a comfortable life. And yet this does not happen.

as to governments protecting human liberty… my lord!


there are enough material resources to grant everyone on the planet a comfortable life.

That depends on how you define comfortable.
There isn’t enough to provide a modern western lifestyle for everyone. And I expect shortages in water and oil in coming decades will make it worse not better.


Maybe not quite modern first world for everyone.

but easily 1950s-level first world, I reckon.

the point is that there is a profound distribution issue. A distribution issue that hasn’t been fixed with the advent of more stuff and so shouldn’t be exprected to be fixed by EVEN MORE stuff.

it’s like mechanisation/robotics – in theory, mechanisation/robotics means that machines do all the work, while people just sit back and enjoy.

In reality, it means that machines/robots do all the work, while those who have thereby become unemployed are screwed. those who own the robots/machines are ok.

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Yes. There’s never not been a class structure, and a developed and developing world despite all our advancements to date. Why would fusion power change that social dynamic?


but easily 1950s-level first world, I reckon.

Not on a current energy production basis. Maybe a 1900’s level in terms of transportation. Distribution of most things is fairly even, except energy. You can only consume so much food, housing and trinkets. The big disparity is with energy consumption, travel, A/C, lighting, exotic items transported from far away, fruit that has been frozen for 6 months so you can have it year round.
We aren’t going to multiply oil production so everyone can have as much as we do, it simply isn’t there.


The big disparity is with energy consumption, travel, A/C, lighting, exotic items transported from far away, fruit that has been frozen for 6 months so you can have it year round.

I’ll take the over on that… in the 50s

  • travel (esp air) was quite rare, certainly not everyday for everyman
  • a/c might have been in one room of the dwelling
  • lighting – now takes 10x less energy than it used to (as we’ve left incandescent lights behind)
  • exotic items from far away – also wasn’t really a commonplace thing in the 50s. However sea freight is super efficient and cheap now.
  • frozen fruit deffo wasn’t a thing in the 50s and is pretty rare even now.

Remember 50s is I Love Lucy lifestyle… 60s is My Three Soms, Bewitched, Brady Bunch.

I reckon we even have enough energy for 60s lifestyle for all. A house with a fridge, a tv, one car, one airconditioner…

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travel (esp air) was quite rare, certainly not everyday for everyman

Air travel is not the big consumer of fuel, cars are.
And post ww2 is when that exploded.

lighting – now takes 10x less energy than it used to (as we’ve left incandescent lights behind)

Lighting is such a small part of energy consumption it really doesn’t matter all that much, and is mostly night use. Any use that was energy critical was flourescent long before led became viable, and much of the more efficient types such as streetlights still haven’t been converted to LEDs yet.

frozen fruit deffo wasn’t a thing in the 50s and is pretty rare even now.

Fruit has a maybe 3 month season but is available “fresh” all year round. Ever notice that apple or pear seems really cold when you pick it up at the supermarket? That’s because 4 hours earlier it was taken out of the freezer it has been kept in since apple or pear season. There are literal deep freeze warehouses that just store fresh produce to be sold out of season and consumed.

But this is all moot because who is going to give up their current lifestyle for a 50’s level one?


Air travel is not the big consumer of fuel, cars are.

ok, but economobiles exist & can get 5L/100km. Certainly better than the donkey cart.

also google says there are about 1.5b cars running on earth.

again that’s roughly enough for 1950s 1st world level of 1 car per family of 4.

Lighting is such a small part of energy consumption it really doesn’t matter all that much, and is mostly night use. 

you brought lighting into this, not me 😜

Fruit has a maybe 3 month season but is available “fresh” all year round. Ever notice that apple or pear seems really cold when you pick it up at the supermarket? 

3 months in each location. But different times in different locations. You pick strawberries at one time in tassie and a different time in qld. Sure refrigerated freight comes into it, but frozen warehouses seem excessive for most uses.

and at any rate, 1950s level 1st world life doesn’t demand year-round watermelons….

But this is all moot because who is going to give up their current lifestyle for a 50’s level one?

ultimately I think we agree. Ain’t nobody going to volunteer to redistribute things differently, just because altogether there are “enough” things.

90kwbeast puts it eloquently:

Yes. There’s never not been a class structure, and a developed and developing world despite all our advancements to date. Why would fusion power change that social dynamic?


but frozen warehouses seem excessive for most uses.

Whether you think it is excessive or not, it’s the reality.
Although frozen may be a slight exaggeration.
They even have a lovely video

Other produce I’ll let you google.


You see, it’s not so bad. They have a 5 month season, not 3. And need 1degree Celsius storage, not -20degrees C.

that’s probably 5 times less energy required…

in some places they can just be cellared in the winter – almost nil energy.


Maybe, of course we live in a world that requires live export of cattle to indonesia because they simply don’t have the capacity to store it and must eat it fresh from slaughter for most of their population. So it may be a little more complicated…


what the fuck is frozen fruit


Don’t ask me, I’m just a peach!


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I have a confession – a relative conveniently commenced growing some magic mushrooms just prior to the lockdown and vastly under estimated the size of their eventual harvest.

In order to protect their sanity they sent some to me to humanely dispose of. So as a means of purging ourselves of the effects of WFO and iso, and with Grandma minding the daughter (as her designated visitor) the wife and I have been eating a couple shrooms every Friday night and watching old cheesy classics.

Logan’s Run, They Live and one or two others have all been massively enhanced with a couple shrooms – not mind bending, wall melting quantities where the light of the TV spills onto the floor like an overflowing rainbow fountain… instead just enough to bring out the sparkle, the colour and the mild giggly confusion of that only psilocybin or a very strong jay induces. It has been great.

Last night I have to report that we found the greatest of all classic cheesy films; Dino De Laurentiis’s “Flash Gordon”:


As kid’s we’d watched it virtually on loop along with Star Wars, but interestingly in the intervening years hadn’t seen it at all and had completely forgotten what could be described as its plot – consequently it was like watching it again for the first time.

Anyhow, it was almost with a little disappointment when it finally finished, as we realised we would never see its equal again. The colour, the bedazzling costumes, the stupendous sets, the cheesiness of the special effects and lava lamp skies, not to mention the mildly disturbing incestuious relationship between Ming and his daughter, and their constant references to their pleasure palaces.

It was an awesome visual romp that still has me laughing at it again today. Thoroughly recommend it, if not the costumes and sets that are veritable works of art, for but nostalgia’s sake alone.

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Would you still recommend the film to someone who doesn’t have any magic mushrooms? Or just to those who have got a supply?


Definitely recommend that even the none shroomers consider giving it a go. Flash Gordon was a visual spectacular, that is really near unrivaled in terms of costume and set design. The only thing that comes close, and only in terms of trippy set design (FG’s costumes were far superior), was Roger Vadim’s ‘Barbarella’ with Jane Fonda. Indeed it is possible to see some influence of the earlier film coming through in Flash.

Dino De Laurentiis spent an absolute fortune on Flash and it shows. Then there is Queen’s rocking track ‘Flash Gordon‘ that accompanies just about any action sequence within the film.

Perhaps it isn’t to everyone’s taste as it was a complete commercial flop, yet like many others eg ‘Starship Troopers’ perhaps its magnificence only emerges with time. This film is the cheesiest of cheezy films – 100% pure gruyere fondue. If you like and appreciate cheese, then this is for you. If you prefer salads and kale, then maybe think twice.

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Movies for this week:

Anacleto – Agente Secreto [Spytime] (2015) [ESP]

A movie that gives another perspective on parody. I touches spy movies, toxic femininity, softcocks and more… If you liked Austin Powers, this is not the same.

Dirty Rotten Scoundrels (1988) [ENG]
a classic.

Sleuth (1972) [ENG] Sleuth (2007) [ENG]
infidelity, wit, crime, mistery. How to get away with a murder

The Italian Job (1969) [ENG]The Italian Job (2003) [USE]There used to be a time when Robin Hood was acceptable norm, then came a period when robing robbers was unacceptable and it was named “a crime”. Thus this movie falls into a catogory of crime movies with lots a daring stunts and comedy (also called a caper movie). It propelled the Mini Morris popularity to the Moon.
A remake was attempted and it was not as nearly as exciting as the original, with daring attempts beoing plausible a bit too much to digest. If it was not for Charlise Theron, i’d probably not even mention it. Seth Efrican chick was like icing on the cake, makes it look good but otherwise underneath as ordinary as any other supermarket cake. Interesting to binge watch the two.

Hard Candy (2005) [USE]a ‘sico thriller of unusual variety, a 14yo girl vigilante on sexual predators.
Ellen Page, the main actress went inverted Caitlyn Jenner, what a world.

on the TV side:

Police Squad! (1982) a short lived spoof of police series, it propelled Nielsen into a different stardom, the comedy. The series is particularly important because the performance of Rex Hamilton in the movie is probably the pinaccle of acting.
If you do not like Leslie Nielsen, well, this is not for you.

On the music side:

Arthur Lyman – Leis of Jazz (1957)

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Agent 47

Naked Gun Trilogy are some of the funniest movies ever made.


Completely agree. Absolutely hilarious.


I watched these during the week. Recommended if by any chance you haven’t already watched:
Almost Famous
Edge of Tomorrow

From ZH but the video is real good.
I can only wish there is english translation for chinks and ruskies part. I can understadn some of the ruski and the gist of it is brilliant for army recruitment.


Seeing so called progressives bitch slapping each other on Twitter has to be the funniest thing I’ve read for a while.



Agent 47

Both of them have nothing interesting to say.

Carrick Ryan is just some Twitter Muppet who keeps relying on his ex-AFP background as any kind of legitimacy or relevance.

Agent 47

WTF is going on in WA


Beginnings of a personality cult?

Agent 47

May as well start the military parades.


right, but not an interesting or cool one, he’s no hitler, lenin or mussolini. just a dorky dad in the ‘right’ place at the right time. australian politicians have zero charisma and are impossible to take seriously.


Well that’s crazy.


jumped the shark….

this could be McGowan’s “bring back knighthoods” moment a la Abbott


Keen for a skirmish tonight. Come at me?


Stewie is typically your best bet, as easily triggered (and has advertised his button well), but I think he’s tripping on mushrooms tonight :/

maybe coming is around? He can go pretty feral if you bait tease him enough…

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All good just spent a few hours pushing buttons on a chat group that got me banned. Loved the white knights coming to the rescue even though they had know idea why they were lol.

Hoping to smoke out w@f, that fat neck beards had a few days off… Migiuel has long gone…

I’ve been here for months and still waiting for you to push my buttons w@f? I’ve pushed yours.

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How’s Stewie’s wife going these days anyway? Anyone got any pics?


Nah – that is only a Friday night thing. Not every night all weekend – all things in moderation.


So you’ve come ‘ere for an argument then?

A fly in your ointment

or abuse….
it is room 12.
room 12A is for argument


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Agent 47

“but that’s just contradiction.. “

Agent 47

I really want to see the contract Scomo signed with Pfizer


You probably don’t. If it’s anything like the o other one I’ve seen spilled on the net, it would make you vomit.

The pfexecutives of pfizer should be put up against the wall.

Agent 47


If the rumors about bases being seized as collateral under TPP regs are true then my god.

Agent 47

So I made a post about the latest state of the economy but it didn’t make the cut. Not satirical enough and I suck at writing. Maybe a reasonable Sunday night discussion on the weekend links while w@f is AWOL?


EZFKA dodges a recession with the economy rising 0.7%! How good is iron ore? But where to from here? A double dip recession is looming and like I’ve said around these parts previously, I’m not sure the government is prepared to take on another heaping of debt. This is blindingly obvious by our greatest economic manager Josh Frydenborg’s narrative… States need to open up and all that.

So where to from here? What’s your prediction? Do we have a bcn scenario, offshore rates rise and crush householders? Or do we see rba go NIRP along with more stimulus finally making Aus the Venezuela of the pacific?


order of importance to the Australia economy/house prices

DXY and fed policy

iron ore


tourism and “education”

everything else means fucking nothing

so really the main questions are what will fed and China do

seems like after disastrous jobs numbers on Friday fed will continue or escalate QE, govt will deficit spend to some extent

which is supportive for Australian economy/house prices

China is a bit of a wildcard – will leave it to China experts to speculate
maybe there are inflationary pressures to hard to ignore there explaining the current govt rhetoric

but I just don’t believe after all this effort the worlds governments will just give up and allow debt deflation


China is a bit of a wildcard – will leave it to China experts to speculate
maybe there are inflationary pressures to hard to ignore there explaining the current govt rhetoric”

Edit: Fuck sake I lost my post.

The gist was that imo China is going to squeeze us until we are dry, then buy up whatever scraps are left for cheap. imo the dollar will be 40 us cents. Internally the average slob with a decent job won’t notice but we aren’t the “super power” country sitting at the big boy table people seem to think.


How are they squeezing us ?

I don’t get it

there are two diametrically opposed possibilities with China

  1. they are geniuses who are manipulating all of us, and will inevitably rise to superpower status , superseding the decadent and corrupt west
  2. they are a house of cards built on asset price/housing bubbles who will suffer the same fate as Japan in the 90s, with a demographic time bomb to boot

you can convince me of either of these possibilities depending on the day, and the persuasiveness of the prose


How are they not squeezing us?

Australia has been so reliant on that Chinese teat for years. They’ve blocked all other trade i.e. food, wine, students. The only thing that’s held us together has been iron ore. That has been going well until now and it looks like they are closing that door.

If we aren’t exporting or selling education where is the money coming from? How many poor nepalis do we need to import to fill the gap for one $1m Chinese student. The rba can only print so much money before it becomes a problem and imo we are there.


Australia has been so reliant on that Chinese teat for years. They’ve blocked all other trade i.e. food, wine, students. The only thing that’s held us together has been iron ore. That has been going well until now and it looks like they are closing that door.

what exactly are they doing on iron ore that is a material and credible threat?

The rba can only print so much money before it becomes a problem and imo we are there.

what’s the problem that you foresee with excessive printing? Tanking exchange rate leading to more expensive imports of everything, which will strangle the plebs?


there are two diametrically opposed possibilities with China 

they are geniuses who are manipulating all of us, and will inevitably rise to superpower status , superseding the decadent and corrupt west 

they are a house of cards built on asset price/housing bubbles who will suffer the same fate as Japan in the 90s, with a demographic time bomb to boot

With some slight modifications, it could actually be both

they may not be geniuses, but they definitely have some sort of agenda or desired ends. These ends may be supreme superpower status or something else, who knows.

Once we acknowledge that they have ends, it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that they are cynically using asset bubbles as one of the means convenient to attaining them. If a debt bubble is the quickest way to development of a certain level of urbanisation, infrastructure and industrial capacity, why not take it?

rememeber that China is the inheritor of the Marx-Lenin-Mao-Deng legacy, so you can expect them to understand the difference between use-values and exchange-values…

the other point about ends is that China is a young* nation (like Israel and Russia*)

*in this sense, I refer to the present iteration of the political entity. In obvious ways, all of these nations are also very very very old

the thing about young nations is that they still have national projects and stand for something. Maybe it’s something vain – like recovering face from that opium incident a century ago – but it’s still something. (Compare with ezfka, where there is little other than individually “getting ahead”.) To me this makes it more likely that all sorts of means will be ruthlessly used in pursuing the National projects….


“they may not be geniuses, but they definitely have some sort of agenda or desired ends. These ends may be supreme superpower status or something else, who knows.”

Are you guys for real? Maybe I’m extra paranoid because I’ve spent time there and know what China is really like. They’ve made it blindly obvious they want to be the next superpower. It’s not a secret they’ve previously come out and said it. People seem to think this is a 1 year thing and they will go away for whatever reason, China is playing the long game here…

The thing about China is they are playing the long game, planning for 50-100 years time. How many western countries do you really think are doing that? Australia is a prime example, politicians plan and enact policy on a 4 year time frame. Why? Because they want to get re-elected and fuck anything else. It’s one of the biggest failings of the current system.

Unless something changes drastically then the writing is already on the wall. America won’t be the super power in 50 years time.


I think you are fetishising them slightly

their last set of “plans” didn’t go so well if you remember correctly (millions starving to death etc)

their only trick seems to be stealing American IP, and that door is closing or closed

they are losing manufacturing to cheaper SE Asian nations , due to the complications and noncompetitive of a housing/land bubble and relatively higher wages

environmentally improving but they still rely on food imports as well as raw materials

in an inflationary world with new tariffs/barriers, China would be in more trouble than many others


They’ve made it blindly obvious they want to be the next superpower. It’s not a secret they’ve previously come out and said it. People seem to think this is a 1 year thing and they will go away for whatever reason, China is playing the long game here…

yeh, looks like we’re agreeing. Having a superpower ambition isn’t mutually exclusive with having asset & debt bubbles – as long as you have a plan, why not weaponise some asset bubbles in pursuit?!

The thing about China is they are playing the long game, planning for 50-100 years time. How many western countries do you really think are doing that? Australia is a prime example, politicians plan and enact policy on a 4 year time frame. 

this is kind of what I was getting at when I talked about young nations and national projects. China has ‘em. Many others don’t.

but I wouldn’t write the US off so easily. They might have gotten a bit sidetracked with their little neoliberal period, but they can come back.


So I made a post about the latest state of the economy but it didn’t make the cut.

It didn’t get passed over, it just got missed!


fixed now


All good madame like I said, I can’t write for shit. Just thought it would be good to generate a discussion other than the satire here. Stewies crypto posts have been good.


Sure is a lot of 9/11 docos on mainstream/netflix this week… Just so happens to coincide with US pulling out and the cluster fuck in Afghanistan. Taliban have got their hands on a ridiculous amount of US weapons/vehicles. Any sensible withdrawal would have been staggered like it was.

Joe Biden is the biggest failure of a president of all time.

Jet fuel doesn’t melt steel beams.

Vaccine passports smacked down by Campbell Newman on SkyExcellent argumentation by Campbell addressing circular arguments pro-fear-vaxers use to peddle theur agenda.
I’d break my promise to never vote just ot give him a better chance to govern.

Tony Nikolic from AFL Solicitors filed a Supreme Court action against Brad Hazzard & Kerry Chantit has come to dreaded wogs to defend freedoms in the EZFKA. COmplacency never comes with wogs, well, most of them. Is this the momentum and the critical mass build up to incite uprise?


Wogs and lebs have a genetic predisposition to be recalcitrant and dodgy

it’s why their countries are disasters I guess

the Anglo’s are predisposed to order and rules (as far as white people go anyway)

im sure stewie could elaborate on it

A fly in your ointment

I would not call it a predisposition for anglo-saxons, just a pavlov dog reflex becoming ingrained in culture from centuries of opression by own ethnically similar tyrant being well organised. When krauts are irradiated with possibility that a rule of law is optional, they adjust accordingly. Adjust, not shift.
Most wogs were under occupation of some sort during last few centuries at least hence the recalcitrance, inclination to dodginess and prety much anithing that subverts the agressor’s handle on power…


The level of genetic variance between wogs and Anglo’s, or any other population group, is practically non-existent compared to the difference between every other group and Sub-Saharan Africans.

Most of the behavioral differences in Europe are simply cultural or environmental, as opposed to genetic… having a siesta is very sensible if you’ve ever experienced an Italian or Spanish summer.

That said, there is a noticeable IQ gradient running slightly downwards from West to the middle East though, although I would speculate that this is mainly due dysgenic effects associated with first cousin marriages (and paternal first cousin marriages in particular). The median differences on West to East is still smaller than exists between Europe and sub-saharan africans.


Gladys and Barilaro are not exactly Anglo.

A fly in your ointment

indeed, hence i said “dreaded”.
I may not be an expert in the field, like Stewie, the difference may be that on which side of the .gov a wog stands.


Think I’ve missed the point

these two are some of the dodgiest wogs out there
plus their mate Obeid