The doom loop

Way back in 2008 the power of good government was used to rescue the finance industry by effectively buying all their bad debt. Government paper was printed by the trillions and by some miracle it never resulted in inflation, because it never got to the man on the street, only to asset prices. Then came COVID and handouts to the man on the street.

<loop>Then came inflation and rising interest rates. Then bond yields started to rise. Now, fewer people (and bots) want to buy government bonds. It cannot now be assumed that government debt can be refinanced easily. The most comfortable way (least likely to result in blood on the streets) to reduce that debt is by running inflation higher than interest rates, but if inflation keeps rising then interest rates have to follow. Even if inflation moderates, they have to keep interest rates below inflation to deal with all the debt.

If interest rates are below inflation, why would anyone buy government bonds, keep bank deposits, etc? They’ll have to put interest rates higher than inflation to deal with this and that will make the debt even more expensive. Then there won’t be enough money to grow the economy because everyone will be servicing debt. Then the tax receipts will fall. Then the governments become less able to pay off their debts so they print money. </loop>

I have a few ideas on how the loop might end, but in the meantime we have to get through it with our worth intact. Australian property should do OK since rents will have a floor put under them thanks to record high immigration. Australians will not do so well as their breeding rate collapses under the weight of competition for houses and jobs.

I’m sure I’ve missed something, overstated the case, exaggerated, etc. Comments below!

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Peachy

The most comfortable way (least likely to result in blood on the streets) to reduce that debt is by running inflation higher than interest rates, but if inflation keeps rising then interest rates have to follow.

this is along the lines of what I’ve said a few times – to inflate the debt away, interest rates have to be below inflation rates.

however you turn that – this means that the banks take the pain As their balance sheets shrink in relative terms.

min the days of gov-controlled banking it’s something you could mandate. These days, it’s not really the same.

would have to dust off the old TFF in order to make it happen – that shifts the pain from the banks to the public balance sheet. Then there’s the question of what you do with that public balance sheet. Probably have to print, eventually.

at the end of the day it’s really a question of allocation/distribution.

  • do nothing = borrowers cop it
  • try to hold interest rates below inflation = borrowers saved, lenders cop it
  • provide low-interest financing from government = lenders saved, everyone cops it
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Ramjet

As each day passes, the UK is getting closer to developing nation status. Having a banker WEF stooge as a PM just confirms what people already know that the country was run for the benefit of bankers. Now the majority of society is feeling the effects. Most Manufacturing has long since left the country, so how do they improve their living standards? Bankers have sold off anything worth money like housing, utilities.

I guess the average Brit will own nothing and be happy.

Ramjet

Britain has a worse energy crisis than us. Not sure that bodes well for manufacturing.

Peachy

Is the North Sea dry?

bjw678

Are our gas fields?

Peachy

😹

Jam

Absolutely. I used to piss myself laughing at all the cucks going on how brexit would destroy UK. Even now cunts are trying to pin the UK’s failing on brexit.

Freddy

IMO easiest way is to raise wages and increase tax receipts. Sure rates rise but so do wages and income tax receipts. I have been saying it for a few years that this will be the main game with the digitisation of currency.

When RBA get CBDC up and running I fully expect legislated wage rises to be a thing. e.g. July 1 everyone receives 5% wage rise. They have the payroll data on the CBDC ledger and can enforce it.

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Coming

This is what I’ve said before but was told off by you and others

it doesn’t imply a depreciation of the AUD, because it doesn’t imply an increase in the amount of currency circulating but an increase in VELOCITY

it was the fall in velocity that was associated with the most recent disinflationary period

v = gdp / m
or rewritten

gdp = v x m

the only way they were previously trying to get gdp up was by increasing m (money supply)
of course this was just resulting in v falling if gdp didn’t change

increased velocity will lead to greater equality

it’s something we should all look forward to with cbdc

Freddy

I disagreed with your stance on the AUD, and I still disagree with it. You can’t have the cost of an Australian worker perpetually rise faster than international competitors. You also can’t have perpetual wage inflation without price inflation. All of our production would shift overseas. We will import more and export less, Australians will take more cheaper o/s holidays and fewer foreigners will take expensive Australian holidays. All the money flows would be out of the country. The AUD has to give in unless something else like much higher interest rates offsets those money flows with foreign investment.

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Coming

we don’t produce anything
our production shifted overseas a long time ago

its mines plus agriculture , both of which require minimal workforce or have other inputs that are far more costly than labor

its just selling coffees and wiping arses
and building houses

the high building costs will be offset by the wages

Freddy

There is still money being converted into AUD to buy minerals, produce, property, tourism, etc. But fair point on mining. That is a big chunk of AUD support with minimal worker contribution.

Coming

there’s also the fact that almost all private and public debt is AUD denominated

so a devaluation the AUD, while we still produce commodities valued in USD, is only going to be a good thing

we could write it all down very quickly if we were willing to dramatically drop the currency

bjw678

if we were willing to dramatically drop the currency

Falling living standards here we come…

bjw678

 because it doesn’t imply an increase in the amount of currency circulating but an increase in VELOCITY

As long as some of that increased velocity heads overseas(and given how much is imported then a lot of it will) then you can’t do this without printing.

Peachy

v = gdp / m

or rewritten 

gdp = v x m

the only way they were previously trying to get gdp up was by increasing m (money supply)

of course this was just resulting in v falling if gdp didn’t change 

increased velocity will lead to greater equality

this idea of “increased v” basically supposes that the cycle time of everything in shortened (on average).

so rather than upgrading my garden hose once every 24 months, I will replace it once a year (Gardena gets more sales, more profits, lifts wages).

Rather than replacing my gym socks every 6 months, I do it every 4 months (Bonds gets more sales, more profits, lifts wages, etc)

And this ripples through everything, because Gardena and bonds buy more inputs, their staff have more salaries to spend, etc. The same amount of underlying money goes round faster and faster.

but this is just another description “more consumption”. (Starting from a point of overconsumption, perhaps). It is not new. More consumption has been the catchcry for decades already.

And as Robert and Bjw say, given that we don’t produce much and import heaps, this kind of virtuous consumption loop isn’t really possible.

if we try to consume more without producing more, the fx rate will fall to compensate.

reindustrialisation might be a (slow) way out. All that stuff about “Keeping profits in Australia” and such quaint stuff….

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Coming

if prices and wages rise, v rises

you can spend more to get the same amount of goods/services

there is no extra consumption (in real terms)
in fact, there will probably be less (in real terms)

the goal is that it inflates away the debt
not that it improves your quality of life

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Peachy

there is no extra consumption (in real terms)

in fact, there will probably be less (in real terms)

the goal is that it inflates away the debt

not that it improves your quality of life

so we basically just add a zero to all amounts? Minimum wage $200/hour, 1L milk $30, loaf of bread $50?

it is particularly obvious in that scenario that the main effects would be:

  • The lenders wear it
  • the AUD exchange rate wears it
Coming

no we don’t just add a zero

we increase wages

yes the “lenders” wear it

I’m not convinced on the effects on the AUD exchange rate, but probably yes it wears it

and that is why the lenders wear it as we have borrowed publically and privately in AUD

its the best solution for the common wealth of australia

Peachy

we increase wages

yes the “lenders” wear it

I’m not convinced on the effects on the AUD exchange rate, but probably yes it wears it

so we agree

no we don’t just add a zero

obviously I exaggerated a bit (about going x10 thru adding a zero) to make the point more obvious.

but increasing wages/prices x1.5, say, is basically the same thing, just on a smaller scale.

Coming

I fail to understand what your objection to the plan is though

To simplify, if we 2x the amount of AUD in circulation

and the value of the AUD relative to the ROW halves

On an aggregate level we are no better or worse off

People holding AUD deposits and AUD bonds/banks will lose
People with AUD debts (such as the Australian government and therefore the entire population) will win

However, even that depends on how the 2x’ing is distributed

What I’m suggesting is higher wages
And please note that only 60% of the australian population has a job

The effects are not that clear or linear
People who don’t work (retirees, unemployed, owners of capital, “investors”) will have to severely cut back their consumption

Peachy

I fail to understand what your objection to the plan is though

I don’t necessarily have an objection, as such. I’m just pointing out what the downsides of the plan are. That is – who wears the cost. And highlighting that the plan is all about redistribution.

this then highlights the political aspect of it… like, say, financiers may not want to wear the cost.

the points you make about those not working, etc are valid too. The distributional effects will be complex.

Coming

Financiers are not in control though, Sweeper

We saw what happened when the BoE decided they wanted rates to be lower – it just happened (and the pound went up to boot)

Anyway, i’m sure there will be money for the (select) boys though however they decide to work it out

But from an idealistic viewpoint, you would have to agree that this is the best solution to the current pickle we find ourselves in, correct?

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Peachy

But from an idealistic viewpoint, you would have to agree that this is the best solution to the current pickle we find ourselves in, correct?

well, if we limit our choices to mere financial engineering and redistribution – yes, we might as well tip the distributional outcomes towards those who work and away from those that just lend.

if we don’t operate within those constraints, it would be smart to get some reindustrialisation in as part of the wage inflation/currency devaluation play, to change the fundamental underpinnings of all outcomes, over time.

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bjw678

Just accepting your plan at face value, how exactly are wages going to be made to rise?
Massive acquisitions of private companies by the government?

Peachy

Making wages rise? That’s the easy part, I think.

bjw678

I’m all ears for how.
Interest rates are centrally controlled.
Wages are the result of millions of individual decisions between parties. Kind of like most other things in economics. It’s why all the predictions are rubbish and attempts to control it work so poorly.

Peachy

I’m all ears for how.

we’re taking about Coming’s fantasy world where the government chooses to deliberately leave lenders out in the cold by significantly debasing they currency.

in this fantasy world, we can have overt diktat in relation to wages. Such as:

  • Bump public service salaries first
  • Increased minimum wage
  • awards mandatorily rewritten with +20% wages
  • 25% payroll tax, refundable to the extent of wage rises
  • no government contracts for businesses showing insufficient wage increases
  • prohibition on dividends for companies showing insufficient wage bill increases
  • cap management rem to a multiple of non-mgt rem (create pressure for non-mgt rem to rise)

if it were seriously tried – it wouldn’t take much. It would snowball quickly, if 20-30% of businesses do it, cost push will flow through everything.

bjw678

Sure, in fantasy land you can just dictate wage increases.

  • Bump public service salaries first
  • Increased minimum wage
  • awards mandatorily rewritten with +20% wages

these will probably have less effect than you think on overall wages but may have a disproportionate effect on the inflation he also wants to create given they are all for salaries at the lower end compared with the general population.

  • 25% payroll tax, refundable to the extent of wage rises
  • no government contracts for businesses showing insufficient wage increases
  • prohibition on dividends for companies showing insufficient wage bill increases
  • cap management rem to a multiple of non-mgt rem (create pressure for non-mgt rem to rise)

These may work but are more likely to end up being gamed rather than having the effect of actually increasing wages across the board.

And the rather glaring grey mass in the corner, what % of the workforce are contractors and how do you stop businesses from converting more permanent to contract if you mandate wage increases?

Jam

Is peachy sweeper. From memory used to be in agreeance with sweeper at the other place.

bjw678

if prices and wages rise, v rises

you can spend more to get the same amount of goods/services

I’m not convinced on the effects on the AUD exchange rate, but probably yes it wears it

The only way you can spend more to get the same amount of goods and services if there is imports is if the exhange rate adjusts or the entire world inflates along with us.

Freddy

Not sure what you mean. It would be a 1:1 swap for cash AUD.

Freddy

No. 1:1. I was referring to indirect debasement via wage inflation.

bjw678

When RBA get CBDC up and running I fully expect legislated wage rises to be a thing. e.g. July 1 everyone receives 5% wage rise. They have the payroll data on the CBDC ledger and can enforce it.

They could do this 90% now. Anyone who is PAYE they already get all this info.

No1

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/10/the-us-signals-readiness-to-launch-nuclear-strike-against-russia.html

I think nuclear war is much more viable these days because dissent has been largely eradicated from political life (see also, Democrat “progressives” withdrawing their letter with a mild critique of the Biden administration’s unwillingness to conduct diplomacy).

If we have a nuclear war then there won’t be a civilisation left to make a narrative. But if there was one, let’s say, the entire Western world’s narrative would be that it was Russia’s fault and the US did not act unreasonably, regardless of what actually happened or even who fired their nukes first.

This environment of impunity lets the psychotic neocons in government do whatever they want. Mistakes like Iraq belong to the past, they could never happen again… for some reason.

Ramjet

It was only seven years ago that progressives were having meltdowns that Trump had access to the nuclear button. Now they seem okay that a guy with dementia has access to the same button and that he will use it.

Most of the criticism that I see about the Ukraine war come from the likes of Tucker Carlson, Rand Paul, etc.

bjw678

Now they seem okay that a guy with dementia has access to the same button and that he will use it.

The thing about that button is it doesn’t really exist. Nukes will only be launched if the senior US military thinks it is a good idea. And against russia it is suicidal.

Ramjet

I know the nuclear button is a figure of speech, but the president needs to be okay with nuking a city/region.

bjw678

Yes, but so do the people with the actual weapons. Just because the president says so doesn’t mean it automatically happens.
Just because I was following orders has been clearly established as a non suitable defence against war crimes.

Coming

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11358895/Brittany-Higgins-appears-court-trial-Bruce-Lehrmann.html

fucking lol the whole thing has been called off

‘During routine tidying of the jury room after the conclusion of the proceedings yesterday, one of the sheriff’s officers accidentally bumped one of the jurors documents folders onto the floor.’

lol what a terrible excuse

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Peachy

They had to find an excuse and they did so find it.

now, will the accuser refuse to participate in a retrial, as has been predicted?

bjw678

They don’t actually need the accuser to conduct a retrial but I’m still betting the prosecution doesn’t whether she wants to or not.

lswchp

She will have to write a new chapter for her book, describing her PTSD (Post Trial Stress Disorder).

emusplatt

‘It has come to my attention that one of you has undertaken research in relation to issues in the case and that material has entered the jury room which ought not to have.

oh really???

gtfo

as a juror receiving umpteen instructions to consider only the evidence arising in the court, I’ll just keep schtum wrt to this new material being introduced by my fellow juror?

yeah like fuck I will!

I’ll rely on a chance discovery by the sheriff?

yeah like fuck I will!

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lswchp

That’s not the reason. The juror had conducted independent research of the case outside the evidence presented at the trial despite multiple cautions not to do that, and had brought external documents (list of comments from EZFKA perhaps? 😊) into the jury room, thus potentially tainting the views of the jury with invalid information. The juror would have definitely known this was the wrong thing to do, and had attempted to conceal the evidence.

Another demonstration of the truism that Most People Are Idiots.

What a fucking debacle.

Peachy

Bet you this juror was a she

lswchp

You beat me to it.

bjw678

Doesn’t effect the outcome, it would have been hung anyway to the same effect.
This just sped up the process of reaching that point.

stagmal

no thered of been no hung jury, the judge wasnt allowing it

this could have saved bruceys ass

bjw678

the judge can’t stop it.

stagmal

sounds like she did her best to, it was clearly hung over a week ago and she kept telling them to go back

lswchp

After at least 17 directions by the trial judge not to do so. LoL. The juror claimed the documents hadn’t been used in deliberations. Fckn LoL. Sounds like the sort of nonsense a feminist would pull.

In NSW, the jurors actions would apparently be an offence, but not in the ACT.

stagmal

wow

why not just declare this done and dusted and move the fk on

stagmal

also basically the juror was a feminazi cvnt

stagmal

Lmao

now poor brucey has to go to re-trial, this whole thing is FUCKING RIGGED

should have let them walk on a hung jury, but the feminist judge wants an outcome (brucey guilty) and has her fingers on the scale

Peachy

As of today, he’s not guilty

stagmal

he’s innocent as of day bc he has that presumption and hasnt been convicted

Peachy

Zackly

bjw678

hung jury or discharged is exactly the same outcome from a legal perspective. From a PR perspective it just doesn’t reveal what the jury was thinking.

stagmal

is it

when a jury is hung they dont order a retrial instantly like they did herre

bjw678

They haven’t ordered a retrial. They have offered a date. My bet is the prosecution drops it quietly.

stagmal

got a link

bjw678

have you?

stagmal

Retrial scheduled for February next yearThe judge granted Mr Lehrmann bail until a new trial, scheduled for February 20, 2023.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-27/jury-discharged-in-trial-of-bruce-lehrmann-brittany-higgins/101583486

that sounds pretty final to me idfk

bjw678

If you think that’s final you really don’t understand court proceedings. The prosecution could drop the chages at any point upto the trial conclusion.

stagmal

why would they

they want this guys head on a wall they are not dropping shit

Coming

lol

its best to just ignore this fucking moron

MR coal

Then a hung jury would have gone to retrial as well. It is not a not guilty verdict.

bjw678

so why would they not do a retrial on a hung jury?

emusplatt

https://twitter.com/JacquelineMaley/status/1585420557130297344

“Justice Lucy McCallum in the Lehrmann trial has made it very clear that we can report this aborted trial result then not say a word more.

Any commentary at all can prejudice a new trial and lead to contempt of court charges”

anyone gunna tell the wilkinson cvnt?

edit: where’s the suppression order then?

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Robert Plant

Didn’t stop hefty hefty higgo flapping her mouth outside the court afterwords did it.

Coming
stagmal

its brucey who should be lashing out lol, the cvnt feminist judge should have ended this as hung on friday

Coming

i don’t really care what happens to this fuckwit, but this is absolutely disgraceful

For sure it was going to end up hung jury

Maybe this cunt juror deliberately let herself get caught to get a mistrial, or maybe it was the cunt judge looking for an excuse

Note that the judge has suppressed all other information

Probably the jury was going to vote to acquit 11-1, except this one man hating juror

stagmal

u lie m8 u do care just admit it

trying to sound even handed is all well and good but we all know its going to be infinitely funnier if hes found NG than the inverse

higgins has been built up like a god for the past 2 years and this would put that all in jeopardy

Coming

I care about my own entertainment, yes for sure

This has increased the comedy factor of the whole circus so I applaud it from that point of view

However, it does worry me that the same gross injustice could be perpetrated against me by our judicial system

If Bruce were to kill himself, for instance, it might be a good and entertaining finale. So I don’t care about him as an individual

stagmal

really hope they reveal info about the jury and who this juror was etc though

Coming

its just really an unjustifiable decision by the judge to be honest

even if the juror had this info, there is no evidence she shared it with anyone

So unless all the other jurors were unanimous and she was the only holdout (guilty or not guilty) it has no bearing on the outcome of deliberations

If she was the only holdout, and that holdout was for “not guilty” then I can understand considering a mistrial

But if she was the only holdout for “guilty” then at worst the result for bruce should have been hung or NG

stagmal

the research was talking about how false rape accusations are super rare, they (she) was extremely likely to be a holdout for guilty

it was likely a printed off jezebel dot com article

Coming

Do you have a link to confirm that

so hypothetically if she was the sole holdout for “guilty” then bruce was otherwise going to be unanimously be found not guilty

The judge should have called it hung at absolute worst – absolute fucking bitch could not tolerate letting him walk free

stagmal

the jezebel thing i made up lol that was a joke

but the other part was true

“The court heard the paper related to the “unhelpfulness of trying to quantify” how often false rape accusations were made.”

plus its canberra

anyone bringing stats about how false rape accusations are rare (if that even exists) would be some sort of MRA, how many of those exist in the world let alone in canberra compared to feminists who would never show up with that kind of material

Coming

absolute fucking bullshit that they are even allowed to go home

Why aren’t they locked in the fucking room until they come up with an answer
They should have been thinking and discussing with each other during the trial anyway

bjw678

Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

Why aren’t they locked in the fucking room until they come up with an answer

Because then juries would truly be made up of the dumbest of the dumb that can’t figure out how to get out of it. Is that who you want deciding your fate if you are ever falsely accused(or legitimately)

They should have been thinking and discussing with each other during the trial anyway

While the evidence was being given, or over lunch in public?

stagmal

Because then juries would truly be made up of the dumbest of the dumb that can’t figure out how to get out of it. 

they already are

i just throw my jury summons in the trash and absolutely nothing happens to me

Stewie

When I got summoned for JD I ticked ‘prefer not to say’ in regards to my vaccination status – got an immediate‘thank you for your service but it isn’t needed’.

Cedric Coxwallow

When I was dinged for jury duty, I wrote back that “The police wouldn’t charge them if they weren’t guilty”.

Stewie

That’ll work too! 😆

stagmal

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fmd look at this woman she legit looks 45

Aussie Soy Boy

The amount of young women in Canberra too they must outnumber the amount of young men. You wouldn’t fuck her if you were stuck in Port Hedland or Mount Isa.

Peachy

The jury in the rape trial of Bruce Lehrmann has been abruptly discharged and the trial aborted after a juror brought forbidden research into deliberations

forbidden research… sounds like research into Covid “vaccine” efficacy and treatment options. 😂 😂 🤣

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lswchp

“Forbidden Research”…research into the catastrophic effects of mass immigration into this country, which is totally supported and encouraged by both sides of politics.

…research into the horrible effects of raising children in high rise slum towers owned by cunts like High Rise Harry.

…research into the foul corruption that stains every level of gummint in Australia from local councils to the PMs office.

…research into the corruption of our education system by importing gazillions of blank-eyed, slack-jawed, mouth breathing low IQ Asian “students” who can’t speak English (I know, I lectured the cunts) most of whom are either serving coffee in malls, delivering pizza, driving uber or sucking cock in brothels, but most definitely not studying.

…research into the difficulty my children face in putting a roof over their heads, and starting their own families.

…research into…

Coming
Coming

In a written statement released after Higgins had made her own public comments, Lehrmann’s barrister Steven Whybrow said that “notwithstanding her honour’s admonition, the complainant proceeded to give what appears to have been a pre-prepared speech to the media outside the court”.

“I understand the complainant and other members of her support team were all seated in court this morning when the Chief Justice discharged the jury and made strong comments about people making statements or comments that could prejudice a fair trial,” he said.

“We have brought these comments to the attention of the Court and the Australian Federal Police, and it is not appropriate for Mr Lehrmann or his lawyers to make any comment as to whether the complainant’s statements might amount to a contempt of court or offences against the ACT Criminal Code.”

What would you be willing to pay to see brittany higgins go to jail

stagmal

would be the most incredible end to this

MR coal

About as much as for her onlyfans.

Peachy

That lady going to jail would be totally sweet.

but among the true believers and the feminazis it would make her even more of a martyr, unfortunately.

Coming

are you really a woman? come clean to us please

Cedric Coxwallow

Define ‘woman’.
Peachies posts and language are definitely masculine, so I’m saying they’re a penis-person or a non-bio fronthole human unit.

stagmal

peachy is a girl lol she’s just not like most

ive known many like her

who cares anyway

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Aussie Soy Boy

A based trans would be cool

Cedric Coxwallow

Yeah! Peachy the trans with fake cans.

Stewie

😐

lswchp

Definitely? Don’t you mean defiantly?

stagmal

higgins probably did this deliberate , she wants the charges dropped

she gets to walk away without having to face the possibilty of brucey getting NG so the grift can go on

can always just spin it as how women cant get a fair hearing in a rape case etc etc then get on some legal bandwagon to make it easier to convict men in these cases

i mean she could do that with a NG verdict as well but it wouldnt be as convincing, there being no charges is the best possible outcome for her future career as a victimhood grifter

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Coming

don’t you think, after all of this, its your calling to go to uni and get a law degree

Maybe you can be a MRA advocate or just represent men in sexual assault and family court matters

stagmal

i already have a degree im not going back and getting another

Aussie Soy Boy

Even that piece of shit Wilkinson won’t want to be associated with this lying cow after all of this.

I called this early in the year. I thought she was an ultra ambitious type that had a drinking problem and slept around, got caught in the nude, rumours started going around the office, slut cries rape.

Coming

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED

Aussie Soy Boy

I thought it must have been a stitch up by the judge to have Brucey put away in a trial by a judge.

If a case is dismissed because of prejudicial comments made then that person is in contempt of court and needs to be in jail.

Aussie Soy Boy

Ah I see now that the hefty one’s rehearsed speech outside the court is what is prejudicing the next trial.

A retrial won’t go ahead. Even if it is going ahead she will enter into a psychiatric facility into the lead up and say it’s too stressful to relive the horror of some silly drunk sex on a couch.

lswchp

Ah….about two bob.

emusplatt

seems this is stage managed,…. which causes me to question how long after the book deal will the announcement of bruce n brit’s secret engagement and the subsequent elopement to the caymans?
….

I’m Sam Kekovich…

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Stewie

I’m starting to agree.

Aussie Soy Boy

I haven’t read anything about why the jury was dismissed for misconduct.

I assume now the judge will order a retrial and make it a trial by judge so they can stitch Brucey up?

This is a total stitch up.

stagmal

they cant do that in ACT thank fuck for brucey

but they’d be chomping at the bit to get this guy chucked in the slammer if they could, i’d be on the first plane to buenos aires if i was him

vaya con dios big britt you fat lying slut

Aussie Soy Boy

Where does Brucey get the money from for all this if there a new trial? He’s only a young man and doesn’t seem to be from a wealthy background? This must be hundreds of thousands minimum?

It’s frightening.

stagmal

hes not a rich man no

i have nfi how people pay their legal fees

Drago

Didn’t Kerry Stokes pay for Australian war hero Ben Robert’s-Smith’s defamation case?

Christian Porter clocked up $430,000 in fees sueing the ABC for defamation.

The Left and its journalists get us to pay their legal fees via taxes and ABC funding..

Coming

id contribute to his gofundme

why hasn’t he started one

Cedric Coxwallow

The process is the punishment.

Drago

Yes, financially he’s fucked. No Christian Porter style Blind Trust funding coming in from hidden benefactors. The Left would cancel his Go Fund Me as quickly as he put it up.

I’ve got no doubt she has already had her fees paid via that crow Wilkinson and the pirate, would have been part of the book deal.

bjw678

Her fees? what fees? That’s your tax dollars at work.

stagmal

news.com.au youtube = only place online besides here that allows comments on higgins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHMELsTU-R8

The90kwbeast

90% of people saying the same things as here

ABC not even reporting on it, no comments allowed.

What a circus

Coming

skippyMEMBER
October 27, 2022 at 6:23 pm

Just had my first date in over 30 years and she looked at me like meat on a hook, seen the no fuss photo I put up on – yes one of those sites – rubber necked hard driving up in the Macan and walked up to me after parking. E.g. my day job is my gym and love cracking a hard sweat all day … she is younger than me … chortle …

stagmal

imagine thinking thered be any reasonably young PoA who’d go out with some schizo cunt who communicates exclusively in word salad jibberish

Aussie Soy Boy

Thank you very much to Brucey’s lawyers, thank you very very very very very much!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cslbOjFyHBU&ab_channel=d0nkeyshines

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Aussie Soy Boy

Don’t know how to embed something.

lswchp

Now there’s a heartfelt plea from a bitterly disappointed man, who has discovered he’s dealing with a bunch of New Idea readers.

Don’t worry…we love you Robert!

Stewie

New Idea readers!

lol

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