An Alternative for EZFKA?

UAP have started a heavy advertising blitz to position themselves for the upcoming Federal election. Seconds into the add they indicate they are far more serious about this than any of the other minor parties with the statement they will run candidates for every seat in the House of reps, and the senate. Whether or not this turns out to be true only time will tell but if it is then they are at least electable into government in their own right. This puts them well above the other minor parties as a potential vector for change.

They seem to be selling themselves as an alternative to the status quo Trump style, pushing an end to lockdowns, freedom, protection of free speech and an end to the “coalition of Labor and Liberal”. This is a message that will achieve traction with a lot of people but the fundamental question is will they deliver on the promise or produce more of the same if they actually win power?

Would this be more likely to succeed without the baggage of Craig Kelly and Clive Palmer? Is it a cynical ploy to capture the voter drift away from the main parties and direct it back to the liberals? Could this be achieved by a party that would be true to the ideals presented without becoming beholden to a cheque writer like Palmer? I’m not sure but it raises some very interesting questions.

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Agent 47

Not entirely sure tbh.

Palmer essentially ran interference for the LNP last election. At least he could have manned up and gone through with the High Court challenge.

Both majors will get a smashing but either it’s enough to make a difference is another story. Hopefully the cross bench in the Senate expands, that’s probably the best you can hope for.

Freddy

A pointless party. Craig Kelly will lose his seat in House of Reps and disappear into oblivion. They might win a seat in the senate at the expense of LNP or PHON and will vote for the same policies as the person they replace.

It would also take a special kind of stupid voter to vote Federally for no lockdowns given that it is a state policy.

DictatorDavid

Yeah but what’s their housing policy? Make interest tax deductible lol

Peachy

Yeah but what’s their housing policy? Make interest tax deductible lol

if that was their actual policy, they might romp in. But it does t seem to be in the list on their website.

this one is:

Process Australian Minerals at Home

We can create thousands of jobs and turbo-charge our exports by processing our mineral resources in Australia, leading to enormous revenue injections and better schools and hospitals.

Australia is failing to maximise revenue from its prized mineral resources by continuing to send unprocessed ores overseas. The United Australia Party’s downstream processing policy will see more stages of the mining process happen on Australian soil rather than offshore, resulting in much higher returns, along with stimulants for both economic growth and job creation.

We can use Australia’s mineral resources to kick-start our economy by setting up downstream processing in the states such as South Australia and Victoria that aren’t resource-rich.

And it ain’t dumb. if you fuck off the bleatings of the fake-green nutters, it makes a lot of sense, dunnit? Of course, the most interesting thing is what is merely implied (and not said) – namely industry policy/tariffs to consciously direct the flow of goods and money, rather than letting it just run according to the globalist agenda….

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Peachy

That’s a little dumb. If you were going to process it onshore you’d do it near the resources rather than ship them around for no benefit.

The rest is smart,

for sure, the processing in SA/VIC is not the most efficient, but politically it makes sense to create some benefits there.

besides “near the resources” is a bit of a phantom benefit. The coal & iron ore still have to be loaded onto trains at the mines and unloaded front brakes trains at the workS.

So the only difference is whether the train runs a long distance or a short distance. Don’t know the exact numbers, but it’s a few thousand dollars of diesel – probably a few cents per tonne of transported product.

plus the maintenance of the longer rail links… but on the other hand that means more jobs.

Ramjet

Victoria used to have two aluminium smelting plants, but the one at Pt Henry closed several years ago. I really doubt that anything like a mineral processing plant would ever be set up here in Victoria. Greens would be dead against it and it won’t happen. Yet, they seem to be happy with a large flammable battery. 🤡🌎

Peachy

Aluminium smelting is much much dirtier than selling houses to each other, mate.

Ramjet

Victoria’s economy is house flipping, coffee sipping and ticket clipping. None of which is dirty 😉

DictatorDavid

if that was their actual policy, they might romp in. But it does t seem to be in the list on their website.

It’s on the video under home loans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAhIU-VSed4

Gouda

Craig Kelly will have pissed off plenty with his sms spam campaign. Think he went too early and should have waited until an election was called.

Gouda

Good point – just read something in the news today that suggested membership to UAP is free and this was the goal. Clearly the press is keeping a close eye on EZFKA :p

Peachy

They seem to be selling themselves as an alternative to the status quo Trump style, pushing an end to lockdowns,

seems to me that the “end lockdowns” message is an opportunistic and cynical grab to exploit people’s fatigue.

but you’re right – it may work to capture a part of the vote. Hard to imagine that it will do so in a concentrated enough manner that will matter for lower house. Although, perhaps for the particular stigmatised LGAs it might.

emusplatt

another political machine…meet the new boss same as the old boss….
that said, they will be higher on my ballot than any legacy parties

Peachy

That’s most probably going to be proven right.

it’s interesting that they’re trying to cast themselves as explicitly in opposition to the Laberal Parties, but chances are that this won’t survive the reality test.

Stewie

I hope they get up, if only to be a painful thorn in the side of the LNP, given that LAB are little more than a bunch of progressive lap dogs.

Reus's Large MEMBER

Not relevant to this but in case you missed this

And they wonder why people don’t trust the CDC and the “science”
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/09/as-us-prepares-to-ban-ivermectin-for-covid-19-more-countries-in-asia-begin-using-it.html

Coming

fuck i cant believe this is published at nakedcapitalism

I need to know what skippy thinks about this

Why hasn’t he copy-pasted the article on MB and pretended its his own work

Ramjet

Pretty much useless running HoR candidates. The best bet is to run Senate candidates and run a good campaign. As much as I want to see the back of Labor, LNP, Greens and PHON, chances are quite slim as Kelly and Palmer are damaged goods. Personally I wouldn’t mind a few community focused independents, but they are rare. As we have seen with Trump, the whole politico complex is there for itself and outsiders are not welcome.

Stewie

I think it is the Senate we’re a minor party that gains some blocking power, has the ability to start defining itself as the real opposition by forcing the major parties to constantly and publicly work together in order to pass legislation.

From there it could eventually be possible to build a beach head to go for the house of Reps. The trouble is, whenever on of them is gets to the position where it is possible to do so eg PHON they get bribed into working with the Govt by the Govt appointing them to various sub committees, which is where politicians get their pay boosted.

We are yet to see a minor party that is determined to break the system, and prepared to risk sacrificing its political success by repeatedly blocking bills and risking double dissolution elections.

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Stewie

Yeah – at this stage I think there’s virtually no chance in altering the trajectory that we are currently headed. I think it is more important at this stage to start preparing for when it all fails.

Peachy

more important at this stage to start preparing for when it all fails.

…assuming you’ll be young enough to care (when it all fails)

Stewie

If not for me then my kids.

Chinese Astroturfer

I hope COVID takes out that fat f***.

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