Australian scientists uncover new ‘No-one gives a fuck’ variant

EZFKA scientists have uncovered a new COVID variant which is being dubbed the ‘No-one gives a fuck’ strain, originating from South Africa.

The strain was uncovered right after the new Omicron variant was released last week, sending thousands of EZFKA residents back under their bed and reaching for the Depends.

“The strain was released to genuine non-concern from most people, except those neurotic bed-wetters that have neglected their health for years and watch TV regularly,” Dr James Jamieton said.

“This one should just be treated like the rest as a complete WOFTAM, but there are many people out there that have made this entire thing part of their identity, so who knows.”

Mainstream media journalists have vowed to ratchet fear porn up to even higher levels in response to the variant.

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Peachy

Is it actually true that they were actually up to “Xi” (Ξ ξ) with their fake variant names, but pussied out and went with omicron (O)?

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Gouda

There was talk that the South African variant was going to be called Nu as it was the next letter in the Greek alphabet but, then it jumped to Omicron skipping both Nu and Xi.

You can see the history of nomenclature, so it’s not unreasonable to guess they didn’t want to upset someone… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variants_of_SARS-CoV-2

T

Nu variant for Xi?

Reus's Large MEMBER

Yes but they skipped so they did not upset Winnie the Poo

Agent 47

Savid Javid in the UK just announced boosters every three months instead of 6 as the recommendation.

Just lol at this point.

Peachy

How long do you think until the recommendation “hardens” to special privileges for those with a shot in the last 3 months and social/legal disabilities for those with a less recent shot?

…the subtext seems to be that they know that winter is coming, have built approx 0 new hospitals, despite having years to have done so, and probably feel broad lockdowns (to avoid embarrassment due to fucked NHS) are politically difficult…

bjw678

Next winter here it will be a shot in the last 6 months or you are a leper, at least until the backlash becomes too much is my best guess.

VacciNazi

On our most popular CoviPrawnHub t/a news dot com.au we have:
a story of a 41yo “with no underlying conditions fall severely ill with “Since testing positive, he has suffered other complications including a collapsed lung, sepsis, blood clots and pneumonia.” Of course, complications were because he did not receive the second jab… what else it could be, eh? Not that he was a footballer (and we know those have weak hearts)

another 55yo UK malnutritioned walking skeleton vegan dies of non-jabbing apparently regretting choices he made from following vegan diet. Having concerns that wax is tested on animals squarely puts him in the “anti-” corner. Imagine he had concerns for long term health condition.
why he died, you ask ur slef? Because Omicron, article claims…

Simon Kandidas of the Briki shop finds a Brick in his shop.
Obviously anti-waxers nefarious dealings trying to burn one shop at the time until no more coffie shops for waxed. Silly me, I though someone needed new windows and what a way to kill three birds with one stone.

Throw in a few semi-naked chicks with cumulative IQ equivalent of a cubic root of the 125 with some silly ideas and bait-click acumen with importance and we quickly zero in on their claim Danes were smart to open society but they missed that it was at 70% of waxing… silly chicks… it was at 70% of waxing, not because they were unwaxed!!! Of course, we’re not Danes and we need 99.99% waxing and 100’s of 1000’s protesters for fraction of freedoms Danes were given back.

Never mind the rubbish above, real fear comes from this article published on the 15. October. It is a basic instinct fear and it sends the shivers down the spine.
How will Novavax fit into Australia’s COVID-19 vaccine plans? Fear does nto come from the article itself, it comes from comments whicha re apparently real life GP’s treating you, me, children and elderly. People we’re supposed to trust with little critical thought.

Dr Jessica Legrand  7/11/2021 8:46:45 PM

Who knows if efficacy of Novavax is accurate? There are so many people in the USA and Mexico who already had Covid and they might have been included in the trial. There is also a possibility that the trial participants not knowing if they got placebo or the real vaccine, went secretly to their nearest pharmacy and got Pfizer/Moderna vaccines to protect themselves from Covid illness.      

Dr Alan Graham MacKenzie  13/11/2021 12:16:52 PM

51 million doses in Jan 2022 of a vaccine which was developed before Delta seems to be a further waste of time and money.

Each year our Influenza vaccine is upgraded to encompass protection against the most recent variant strain.

Why is this not happening with Covid?      

Dr Cathryn Leembruggen  28/10/2021 9:35:58 PM

Somebody has done a great job marketing Novavax to the vaccine hesitant… but in reality it is still a new vaccine with less real world safety and effectiveness data than any of the other vaccines. What our patients need is protection now – as case numbers increase, as we open up and there are more asymptomatic cases of covid, waiting for the ” grass is greener” vaccine is risking severe Covid. The best vaccine is the one they can get NOW.      

Fortunately there are still many GP’s whom think rationally and with their own brain rather than with the advice given by 7 news Davo Kochie on an hourly basis.

Peachy

So, reading between the lines, it seems that perhaps they are so concerned about this variant because the spike thingy on it has mutated much from the previous varieties…. Possibly enough to render the jabs profoundly ineffective?

VacciNazi

Oh dear, imagine it renders the jab so easily and quickly (under 1yr) but it mutates as they (mostly) all mutate into a very efficient spreader which does not kill hosts (if any)… it would mean that jabbernaut experiment will need a gun to the temple next time another something comes up for clinical trial.

Reus's Large MEMBER

It is Schrodinger’s variant, it is part of the pandemic of the un-vaccinated and vaccine resistant and transmitted around the world by the vaccinated all at the same time …..

LSWCHP

Omicron apparently has 30ish mutations which will render the vaxen less effective to some extent. Then will come a variant with 64 mutations, then 128 etc until the current vaxen are entirely ineffective.

Just like the flu. Against rapidly mutating coronavirus, vaccines will always be playing catchup while making huge bank for Pfizzler execs and shareholders.

Hoody
LSWCHP

Some interesting charts here about heart problems in young men, probably Vax related.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/is-it-vaccines-or-is-it-covid-causing

If he gets the data he’s asking for it will be real interesting.

Reus's Large MEMBER

My daughter got pericarditis from the Pfizer poison, her friend was hospitalised with blood clots, and her same friends mother has myocarditis also from the Pfizer poison. 3 people at my work out of 140 vaccinated have myocarditis from the vaccines, being that none of them had Whuflu it can be said with certainty that it is the vaccines causing issues.

bjw678

I suspect pfizer had very good reasons to demand governments take on all the financial risk of adverse legal findings due to side effects…

Reus's Large MEMBER

True, the question is for how long, when people are dying like flies from the 3rd/4th/5th booster, then there is going to be a government somewhere that is going to rip up the contract and start legal action against big pharma.

Apparently South Africa had said they were not taking any more vaccines doses from big Pharma just before the Xi(Omicron) variant was discovered.

Peachy

True, the question is for how long, when people are dying like flies from the 3rd/4th/5th booster, then there is going to be a government somewhere that is going to rip up the contract and start legal action against big pharma.

contracts are one thing… there’s also the risk of mossad or cia or the equivalent russki mob or the Canadian Mounties seeing to it that the execs have some accidents.

or the Italian mob – they could get grumpy too if their boys have the wrong type of consequences.

Reus's Large MEMBER

Here is hoping that they do

bjw678

then there is going to be a government somewhere that is going to rip up the contract and start legal action against big pharma.

Maybe, but at that point big pharma just stops supplying your country with medicine, all medicine. So anything you can’t make internally you don’t have. Who is going to tickle that trigger?

Reus's Large MEMBER

That is why I hope that it is India as they make a shit ton of medicine there.

Peachy

I’m sorry that this happened to yours because of those dirty drug pushers.

LSWCHP

Quite a lucid piece about the Pfizzler trials. Concise and worth reading.

https://www.pandata.org/understanding-relative-risk-reduction-and-absolute-risk-reduction-in-vaccine-trials/

VacciNazi

mean time over the EmBee…
https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2021/11/australia-powers-up-global-vaccine-rankings/

“After a painfully slow start, Australia has become one of the world’s vaccination leaders.

Currently, 85.6% of Australia’s population aged 12-plus has received two vaccine doses, with NSW (91.5%) and Victoria (89.9%) leading the way:…”

In other news not known to the writer:
boosters to come at 6/3/2/1 months (delete not applicable) because science and waxing is so good and efficient.

LSWCHP

Some charts demonstrating vaccine ineffectiveness in NE USA as they head into winter.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/northern-new-england

Reus's Large MEMBER

You can’t let the fact’s get in the way of emotion and fear over at MB

Peachy

Love your links LSWCHP. The one yesterday or the day before about absolute vs relative measures, too.

LSWCHP

Cheers. I’m a geeky engineer, so data and charts and evidence based decision making are my lifeblood. That’s why this evidence free covid bullshit pissing me off so much. “Believe the science” shout the morons, while ignoring any science they don’t agree with.

LSWCHP

How about this from The Lancet
In Israel a nosocomial outbreak was reported involving 16 healthcare workers, 23 exposed patients and two family members. The source was a fully vaccinated COVID-19 patient. The vaccination rate was 96.2% among all exposed individuals (151 healthcare workers and 97 patients). Fourteen fully vaccinated patients became severely ill or died, the two unvaccinated patients developed mild disease”

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00258-1/fulltext?s=08#%20

So around 10% of the fucking vaxed died in this case, and the 2 unvaxed were ok. That looks awfully like the vaccines made the disease worse!!

This is The Lancet, not some loony tinfoil hatter on the internet.

Peachy

Another excellent one. Keep this up and you might find yourself on weekend links duty while T’s away.

and that chart…man, it looks ugly!

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Freddy

Peachy, I expect some of the others to misinterpret basic mathematics but not you.

85% of people vaccinated yet only make up less than 60% of symptomatic. Think about it. 60/85 vs 40/15

Peachy

Freddy, the text that goes with that picture was

In Germany, the rate of symptomatic COVID-19 cases among the fully vaccinated (“breakthrough infections”) is reported weekly since 21. July 2021 and was 16.9% at that time among patients of 60 years and older [[2]]. This proportion is increasing week by week and was 58.9% 

I thought that they were doing the percentage as [number of symptomatic Covid cases among vaccinated persons] / [Total number of vaccinated persons who tested positive for covid].

That is, of all those vaccinated persons who got Covid, what percentage were symptomatic (as opposed to feeling perfectly fine).

I think the way you say the percentages are done using the same numerator but the denominator is actually [total number of symptomatic cases].

I can’t read the original german of the source report well enough, but having a closer look at the chart’s legend, I do now think that you are probably right and I was wrong.

that said, however, the rapidly closing gap between the black and gray lines is a bad look for the jabs. in 3 months it’s gone from 17/65 to 60/85. That is rubbish.

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Freddy

They are using two bits of mathematical propaganda to fool you.
1) As the percentage of vaccinated people approaches 100% then no shit the percentage of symptomatic people that are vaccinated also approaches 100%.

in 3 months it’s gone from 17/65 to 60/85

2) The unvaccinated much more likely to be comprise of young people. A vaccinated older person over 50% is still much more likely to end up with symptoms than an unvaccinated 20yo for instance. If you look at the stats as a whole it makes the vaccine appear to lose efficacy, but if you split up by age group you can see the efficacy is there.

Have a skim through this article and look at the charts that compare all ages vs split up by age group:
Israeli data: How can efficacy vs. severe disease be strong when 60% of hospitalized are vaccinated? (covid-datascience.com)

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Peachy

the percentage of vaccinated people approaches 100% then no shit the percentage of symptomatic people that are vaccinated also approaches 100%.

yeh, I get it.
but what’s the point…? you jab 100% and declare victory? And the fact that you’ve got a shitload of symptomatic disease doesn’t matter?

The unvaccinated much more likely to be comprise of young people. A vaccinated older person ov

I get this as well… but it does not really apply here. The graph is only 60+ people. The risky cohort.

id grant, for the purpose of the discussion^, that the 20% of over 60s who got jabbed in the last 3 months (taking jabbed population from 65% to 85%) were probably the relatively younger/fitter/stronger cohort (closer to 60yo than 80yo, say), but even then, the time series looks shit. Even with the addition of the fitter cohort to the jabbed group, incidence of symptomatic cases has climbed.

^
more generally, however, I don’t like this type of argument. It’s not valid: something is assumed about the unvaccinated group (eg they are younger/healthier/50% of them are magically immune to Covid)in order to try to draw the desired conclusion about the vaccinated group and thereby about the vaccination itself.

this is the logical fallacy of “begging the question” or Petitio Principii

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Freddy

in 3 months it’s gone from 17/65 to 60/85.

For the sake of completeness:

  • (83/35):(17/65) = 9.07:1 = ~90% efficacy
  • (40/15):(60/85) = 3.78:1 = ~79% efficacy

So yeah it is losing efficacy over time but it is still pretty good.

It is not a logical fallacy to suggest healthier people are less likely to get vaccinated. For starters the sick and elderly had priority vaccination. Then there are anecdotes like LSWCHP suggesting that despite his age he is fit didn’t feel the need to get vaccinated. Either way, the stats are still pretty decent.

And the fact that you’ve got a shitload of symptomatic disease doesn’t matter?

What can I say? Santa Claus doesn’t really exist. It will continue to be a shit show until better treatment or a weaker strain emerges. Or maybe some of the guys on here will get their wish with this new Xi Xiping strain appearing to be much more contagious. Maybe they can’t stop it with lockdowns but I bet if it is as deadly as Delta that they will piss you all off one more time by trying.

Peachy

So yeah it is losing efficacy over time but it is still pretty good.

i don’t know about the “pretty good” assessment…

It is not a logical fallacy to suggest healthier people are less likely to get vaccinated. 

as I said, in the present case I’m happy enough to agree with you. Because the assumption seems right. But the method isn’t really valid.

imagine they go from 85% jabbed to 95% jabbed and the symptomatic cases and deaths launch to the moon.

one could say “well, the last 10% to be jabbed were actually the desolate and chronically sick people living under bridges and in slums. The people that the health system couldn’t logistically get to earlier. they are the unhealthiest most malnourished people and would’ve likely died anyway, jab o not”.

…you see? By making convenient assumptions, you can “prove” anything.

What can I say? Santa Claus doesn’t really exist. 

can you prove this?
🤣

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Freddy

I also don’t like the symptomatic stats. Do we really give a fuck if someone has the sniffles? or only really care if they end up in hospital or dead? That age group chart in the Israel link show we still at closer to 90% for severe disease.

Saint Nicholas did actually exist. I highly doubt that his reindeers flew across the sky.

Peachy

only really care if they end up in hospital or dead? 

uktimately it’s more like this.

and the data is pretty clear on this – 99.5% of people don’t end up dead.

… 99.9+%, if you don’t count the over 60s.

and given the plausible estimates of jab efficacy we’re talking about here, it’s pretty safe to say that with 0 jabs, the survival rate would still be over 99%

(https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/covid-19-mortality-0)

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LSWCHP

I saw something the other day…can’t remember the link…indicating that 95% of covid ICU admissions and subsequent deaths had 1 or more comorbidities…the usual stuff like obesity, diabetes, COPD etc….

So for healthy people below 60, the CFR is minuscule…around 5% of 0.1%.

Why the fuck would I risk Vax side effects for that? This has been a colossal fuckup, and I wonder how long it will take for the normies to realise they’ve been duped…and possibly injured or killed?

Peachy

Why the fuck would I risk Vax side effects for that?

well, a bunch of bureaucrats have tried really really hard to make it difficult to eat for those who don’t want to risk vax side effects. …as you well know!

This has been a colossal fuckup, and I wonder how long it will take for the normies to realise they’ve been duped…and possibly injured or killed?

I reckon it’s decades. All this stuff takes decades to come out, because of the strong people interested in suppressing it. Smoking, agent Orange, stolen generation, church child abuse, etc