Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Western government, including the USA and Australia have government departments whose role is to audit the performance of the government. This begs a couple of questions:

1. Why did Trump create DOGE rather than give Musk authority over the US Government Accountability Office (USGAO)? I’m not saying that he necessarily was wrong to do so, but the media I’ve seen has not addressed this at all. Why?

2. Why didn’t Kamala Harris and the Democrats address this? Did they believe USGAO was effective so no point in addressing a solved problem or did they instead believe the USGAO was mostly for show?

3. Was the USGAO ineffective? If so, was it because it didn’t have the budget to audit to the required breadth and depth, because the audit criteria were not clear enough, because the politicians and bureaucrats ignored the recommendations, or because the staff were not good enough at their jobs?

I once worked for a research company contracted to the Australian National Audit Office (ANAO). I observed then and since that staff in auditing roles tend to see the value in their role as ‘finding things wrong’. They are aware of the bias this creates so they mould their processes and their reports in an effort to achieve ‘balance’. In situations of repeat interactions, this means that auditees and auditors adapt to one another. In response to audits, auditors can make information harder or easier to access, skew the order of presentation, filibustering, and so on. In turn auditees are careful about how they word their reports, and perhaps also about the depths to which they audit.

If permanent audit bureaucracies are necessarily ineffective as a result of this adaptation, then perhaps DOGE was necessary. But what will stop DOGE or its successor falling into the same trap? When Mao confronted this problem he came up with the cultural revolution, which he said was to be permanent revolution. That was quite unpleasant. I think properly implemented quality management systems would go a very long way in government and elsewhere.

The uncomfortable truth is that accountability cannot be outsourced to bureaucrats, to politicians, or even to our fellow citizens. It is up to each of us, working together, or not. Discussion on this topic is typically avoided, but sooner or later we will not be able to avoid it any more. Accountability will eventually be forced on us by our allies or the global economy. It would be better if we took the initiative.

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A fly in your ointment

You’re the new here on JANPSHFKA with some normal themes.
Tnx

1. Because almost always it is impossible to change a system already in place, particularly a corrupt one. Systems naturally develop self preservation opposing external influence. DOGE is the new bitcoin to watch and at the same time a totally new gov overseeing system that can be easily set as one wishes without worries that old shyte will overtake. Like derelict house, cheaper to demolish.

2. Bidenites and all before them just needed it the way it was. What better way to do dirty deeds than to hide behind unaudited gov agencies.. . So they did it by design (not audit)

3. It just did nit do what it supposed to do. Like almost every US gov agency. They were all a function of something else, mostly sinister. That includes their own citizens. Honestly I doubt Trump will be able to save the Rome as its too late. Of all, he at least have a thin very slim chance, other have none.

Donkey years ago I read of systems and how any system, no matter how small naturally develops the resistance to change and in the end becomes self destructive, as you noted with US gov agencies. Audit is an attempt to change.

A fly in your ointment

Here = hero

Gruppenführer Mark

Blow by blow.

Your question 1,

DOGE work for the President. From the Executive Order:

(b)  Establishment of a Temporary Organization. There shall be a USDS Administrator established in the Executive Office of the President who shall report to the White House Chief of Staff. There is further established within USDS, in accordance with section 3161 of title 5, United States Code, a temporary organization known as “the U.S. DOGE Service Temporary Organization”. The U.S. DOGE Service Temporary Organization shall be headed by the USDS Administrator and shall be dedicated to advancing the President’s 18-month DOGE agenda. 

USGAO, on the other hand, works for Congress. From their website:

GAO provides Congress, the heads of executive agencies, and the public with timely, fact-based, non-partisan information that can be used to improve government and save taxpayers billions of dollars.

Our work is done at the request of congressional committees or subcommittees or is statutorily required by public laws or committee reports, per our Congressional Protocols.

So, DOGE is not the same as USGAO.

Your question 2.

USGAO, from their point of view, worked fine, Republicans were ok with ot as well. Something happens, congressional committee opens up an inquiry, USGAO provides some information at some point in time, usually when the issue is long forgotten, and any findings are being used in mudslinging for political points. Swamp at its finest.

Your question 3.

USGAO’s role was not to audit agencies across the spectrum, but at congressional request. Maybe they were good, I don’t know. But they worked for the legislative branch of the US Government, which made them a political, albeit bipartisan, tool. DOGE, it seems, is going after everything, regardless of political will of Congress.

That’s my view.

On your wider observation about the role of audit bureaucracies and their tendency to grow ineffective, sure, especially if their funding depends on the same political entity that orders audits (in case with USGAO, Congress, as they hold the purse strings). Auditors need to be principled and unable to be swayed. I fail to see where we can find enough of the people with this character, who will strive in an environment, where their sole role is to find that gotcha! i.e. to actively seek conflict. Maybe rolling out a DOGE every now and then for a limited term is a good thing as means to audit the auditors.

As to your idealistic desire for collective accountability, I don’t see it. Our world is too complex, and I don’t even see it happening when we will have the proverbial barbarians at the gate, as there will always be someone seeking to benefit even in this dire situation.

Gruppenführer Mark

My collective accountability thing is absolutely not idealism. It is what actually happens and can be observed repeatedly throughout history. Regimes become unresponsive over time and eventually have to be reformed

Ok, let’s have this conversation. Give me an example of a society similar to ours where this has occurred. I agree that back in the olden days in homogenous societies we can find examples of uprising and revolutions. I posit that or society is way more complex today, various cultures that are not integrated, MSM, internets, vested interests of various sorts that are not class-based.

LSWCHP

Trump set up DOGE they way he did for a very specific reason.

The short story…

Obama et al fucked up their implementation of their national health care system back in the day. In an attempt to deal with the numerous IT deficiencies in that system, he, Obama, created the US Digital Service (USDS). Sooo…this agency was created by a Democrat President and has been in existence since around 2014, is fully funded out the wazoo, and has extremely, like super extremely, wide ranging powers for conducting IT investigations/audits to discover malfeasance across all US government agencies.

In a genius level bureaucratic master stroke, Trump instantiated DOGE as a subsidiary of the USDS. I believe he has actually retitled the agency as the US DOGE Service, but with the pre-existing identical powers.

Think about that for a minute.

Under this arrangement, all the DOGE activity is fully legal, there’s really no grounds for challenging any DOGE activities, what they are doing is perfectly legit under long standing policies and practices, introduced by a Democrat President etc etc

It’s the greatest, most awesomely beautiful business move I’ve ever seen. I dunno if Trump came up with this tactic. I suspect it was one of his offsiders, with deep knowledge of the US bureacracy, but whatever the case, it makes Machiavelli look like a naive and childish dabbler.

With people working for him who have this demonic level of gummint-fu, Trump will shortly be running the entire universe.

LSWCHP

Meanwhile in Europe…

https://www.rt.com/news/613126-germany-us-russia-ukraine/

Laughable nonsense being emitted by a stupid German woman who mistakenly believes that she and her ridiculous country of pompous poltroons and buffoons have some sort of power in the real world.

My view is that if she and her idiotic colleagues actually attempt to demonstrate Germany’s non-existent power over the Americans then Trump will respond by withdrawing all US troops from Europe. A few weeks after that, this woman will find herself amongst a pile of rubble on the floor of the Reichstag, being raped by a train of Russian infantrymen, just as it went almost 80 years ago to the day. If that happened, well, I wouldn’t have a lot of sympathy.

There’s something about The Greens that makes them enormously pompous and arrogant, while being detached from reality at the same time.

Gruppenführer Mark

Two things.

First, Annalena needs to closely study recent cancellation of Romanian elections, in the most liberally democratic way.

Second, this hoax has been perpetrated as a part of Cold War antics, along with 6 million et al.

being raped by a train of Russian infantrymen, just as it went almost 80 years ago to the day

LSWCHP

I’m no fan of the small hatters, but after seeing the people of Gaza cheering and jeering the coffins of a murdered little boy and a murdered baby, well, kill ’em all.

Every last fucking one of them.

V

Those hostages were killed by an Israeli airstrike. Go figure.

the arborist

That may be true, but it doesn’t change the fact that the vermin in Gaza should be eradicated.

V

Why? It’s their land. Perhaps legacy citizens in EZFKA will find out sooner rather than later how displacement works.

the arborist

There is no ‘good guys vs bad guys’ in this conflict. We, in the west would be better off if both sides just ceased to exist. The west shouldn’t have any stake in this conflict at all – but here we are.

Islam and Judaism (and their practitional cultures) are incompatible with each other and with the west.

It’s a wicked problem that will never be solved outside a exceedingly fortunate meteor strike.

LSWCHP

That’s what Hamas says. The Israeli forensic crew reckon they were beaten and strangled.

They also said the body of the mother that was returned is not actually the mother.

Either side could be lying. I believe the IDF in this case.

V

Sorry but I don’t believe the purveyors of the 40 beheaded babies hasbara.
It’s a war-zone, given the lack of power for refrigeration and state of bodies post-airstrikes it would be extremely easy to mix up human remains. It happens in far more organised environments than this.

A fly in your ointment

https://t.me/thespreadeagle/73680

Israel is now claiming the Bibas children were killed by the “bare hands” of Hamas while they were being held hostage in Gaza, after their own father said his family was killed by IDF bombs.

Gruppenführer Mark

Did you really expect the Israeli forensic crew to come out and say “sorry, we killed our own”? Israeli, the people who trademarked victimhood.

A fly in your ointment

I’m no fan of the small hatters, but …

…but imma joo lova…

Caitlin’s Newsletter:

…despite the fact that we know the most likely cause of the children’s death was the fact that their own government was raining military explosives on places where hostages were being held during that time. Hamas reported back in November 2023 that the Bibas children had been killed in an Israeli airstrike along with their mother. In December 2023 it was reported in the mainstream press that Hamas had offered to return their bodies to Israel but Israel refused, telling the press that “Israel will not address propaganda-based reports coming from Hamas”.

You don’t need to trust Hamas or anyone else to deduce that a woman and two children being killed by Israeli airstrikes in an area where many women and children were being killed by Israeli airstrikes every day is a much more likely scenario than Palestinian resistance fighters spontaneously deciding to murder children with their bare hands instead of using them as negotiating leverage as planned

Stewie

Ha ha ha…. classic

He knows and believes that our contemporary narrative as conveyed by the msm is generally framed in accordance to Zionist designs, but doesn’t realise that if he concedes contemporary media is a Zionist construct then so to is ‘our’ recent postwar History.

Capture-Copy-19
LSWCHP

More from the great Lorenzo Warby

https://substack.com/home/post/p-157428026

This guy is probably the greatest public intellectual actively working in Australia at the moment. I like to think I’m intelligent and well read, but the depth and breadth of this guy’s intellect and work is astounding. I’d like to shake his hand and buy him a beer.

Stewie

It helps show how the concept of “merit” can be captured. In normal male hierarchies defining ‘merit’ is almost a moot point… but then I suppose we no longer live under a patriarchy.

Stewie

The uncomfortable truth is that accountability cannot be outsourced to bureaucrats, to politicians, or even to our fellow citizens

This is probably one of the biggest problems in the West – people outsourcing their civic responsibilities to others, for example most people outsource their civic responsibility to stay informed about issues impacting the functioning of our democracy to our Press, in the mistaken belief that it is both free and fair, when it is neither.

Perhaps those that are most mistaken in this area are the managerial and professional classes, who working 50 hr weeks in their futile effort to climb the corporate pyramid, outsource practically all their opinions and news sourcing activities to ‘the serious’ media, like the ABC, SBS or BBC, in the mistaken belief that because it is not commercial news that it is somehow less bias.

the arborist

The most mistaken of all are the women (and low T ‘men’) who work in HR, social work, psychology, uni, etc. But yeah, the general managerial class aren’t far behind.

Stewie

I have nothing but contempt for people who view the world not in terms of “Is this true?” but in terms of “Will others be okay with me thinking this is true?”.

Such people should not be allowed to participate in the democratic process.

Gruppenführer Mark

Those places need to be colonised.

And how did that work out for old colonies? Peace and prosperity or just the opposite?

Perhaps they are all too busy fighting an imaginary european colonial power to take a good look at themselves and their neighbours.

No contradiction with the previous statement. At all.

There’d be a lot of quick wins, enough to keep the war machine moving towards more powerful states like Nigeria or Kenya

So, the war to you is the only answer?

robert2013

The old colonies experienced a range of outcomes from highly prosperous Singapore and Hong Kong, moderately prosperous Malaysia, growing India, middle income but declining South Africa, well run Botswana, chaotic but functional Nigeria, and others.

Colonisation is not the determining factor in these outcomes. Africans who continue to blame colonisation for their ills are their own enemy.

Places without functioning banking or government and which are subject to permanent violence are better off being governed by competent foreign rulers. The rule of law, a stable currency and usable roads are not to be dismissed lightly.

If SA went on conquest it would be following a well trodden path. War is not the only answer, but it’s obvious and it can deliver useful outcomes fast. Depends on who is running it.

Democracy in SA may yet succeed, but if Malema gets his way it will be over. Zimbabwe is still a basket case after Mugabe dispossessed its white farmers more than 10 years ago.

Do tell me your solutions.

A fly in your ointment

Places without functioning banking or government and which are subject to permanent violence are better off being governed by competent foreign rulers. The rule of law, a stable currency and usable roads are not to be dismissed lightly

True as it may be, the only thing that makes the distinction between colonial occupation and prosper is the invitation letter. Like say some pacific Islands.

A fly in your ointment

Governing other people is either helpful if you were invited or an occupation, if it is against their wishes.
Hope that’s simplified enough.
Would other countries be better off or not with western governance is theirs to judge, not yours (ours).
Some “dicktatorships” offer better life than some “democracies” like say Canada or….

robert2013

Governing other people is either helpful if you were invited or an occupation, if it is against their wishes.

Some occupations can be helpful otherwise they wouldn’t be tolerated for centuries on end. Some occupations are necessary because internal conflict is spilling over borders. Some occupations are downright nasty. Some are short and sweet. I don’t think you can say they’re all bad.

Would other countries be better off or not with western governance is theirs to judge, not yours (ours).

I never said anything about western colonisation. In fact I explicitly talked about Africans colonising other Africans.

Some “dicktatorships” offer better life than some “democracies” like say Canada or….

Not wrong. EZFKA getting there.

A fly in your ointment

ome occupations can be helpful otherwise they wouldn’t be tolerated for centuries on end.

Occupations are not tolerated, can only be endured.

I explicitly talked about Africans colonising other Africans.

Colonisation existed in the past, it is how humans spread across the globe.
Colonisation you propose is different and a very bad proposition, perhaps better described as conquering.

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Stewie

Prior to “colonisation” by Western Europe, colonization simply meant the extermination of all competing male chromosomes – the “colonisation” we condemn was the most human expression of the transfer of technology that the world has seen up until that point.

robert2013

Occupations are not tolerated, can only be endured.

Is there a substantive difference?

A fly in your ointment

Yes, massive
Tolerance is a half price fancy shoe but half size smaller or bigger – you get used to it and do not see is as evil, or it’s balanced with benefits
Enduring is what happens from the moment you feel a pebble in your shoe until you catch that bus and then take your shoe off to shake it out.

I know Aussies struggle with metaphors, hope this one is simple enough.

robert2013

That’s a pretty subtle distinction, and I don’t think your examples are very good. I’ve worn shoes that don’t quite fit right. They’re much worse than pebbles. Pebbles can be removed. The shoe cannot be made to fit. You’d only wear them if the alternative was walking on sharp rocks.

India was under British rule for centuries. The British invented India. Before them it was a collection of different monarchies. The same was true of the Dutch in Indonesia. Were these occupations in your terms? Were the rulers tolerated, endured or welcomed? I’d wager you could find evidence of each at different times and in different parts of those dominions.

A fly in your ointment

It is not examples, it is metaphors.

I know Aussies struggle with metaphors, hope this one is simple enough

.
Peble is something that has to be removed to be able to continue. A half size bigger shoe can go a long way

A fly in your ointment

Not occupations but conquests too, where local populace is treated like live stock on top of everything being a function if wealth extraction.

Originally it always starts as looting an plundering which is enabled by significant military advantage, then it becomes governed farming and in finals steps it ncludes corruption of local leaders as the populace emancipates and plunderers empires crumble.

Where would India be without the crown it is difficult to speculate but what we know with certainty is that they wouldve been free.

English are now self-destructive with woke culture, should we be proposing ruskies invade them to get them to advance from the cesspool they’re in now?

Stewie

In a way it is a pity that the English colonised India
If they hadn’t it may well have remained a collection of mutually distrustful and perpetually waring kingdoms, constantly ethnociding each other through war and famine, keeping their populations in check and ensuring the world would be unlikely to suffering be from under the Pajeet explosion it is today.

Gruppenführer Mark

The old colonies experienced a range of outcomes from highly prosperous Singapore and Hong Kong, moderately prosperous Malaysia, growing India, middle income but declining South Africa, well run Botswana, chaotic but functional Nigeria, and others.

All of the colonies you have described were raped and pillaged, with some retaining the good that was brought in by the colonisers, and others just regressing to some degree.

Colonialism in its core is not about developing the subjugated lands and peoples but is about stripping away any wealth possible for the benefit of the colonisers. This is at the core of sea-borne empires, a thalassocracy.

My solution is to just let them be. Trade with them, yes. Invest in them (Chinese style), yes. Colonise or encourage wars, hell no!

A fly in your ointment

Oh, my, you need to research the history before assuming certain, well, assumptions. Wrong assumptions.

Tu sum up your response above, it reads: chicken are better off in farm cages then free roaming, because foxes, regular food, weasels, eagles, warmth etc.

Wrt South Africa, your starting point is that countries must colonise other places for their benefit and colonised people benefit. That barbaric era is finished and western European empires have run their courses… there’s more money in developing other countries (as they choose) then benefit from that market potential from being first and foremost. Of course this is not as benign as it implies but it is far from barbaric. US’ Marshal Plan for post WW2 european countries is a nice example. It is a technology colonisation but most importantly it was voluntary and benefited all.

there’s more money in developing other countries (as they choose) then benefit from that market potential from being first and foremost

Preach it, brother! This is exactly the approach Chinese (and Russians) are taking with Africa. Chinese are especially interested in replacing the oversaturated and declining (in purchasing power) markets of the USA and EU with developing African markets with billions of new consumers.

robert2013

Tu sum up your response above, it reads: chicken are better off in farm cages then free roaming, because foxes, regular food, weasels, eagles, warmth etc.

Are you saying that people are essentially mindless automatons like chickens? I’m not. I’m saying the people weigh the positives and negatives and make their choice.

I may hate being an employee but I still go and sit my cage each day and work for the employer because it’s the best choice given my understanding at the time.

your starting point is that countries must colonise other places for their benefit and colonised people benefit

Scroll up. That was not my starting point.

A fly in your ointment

Are you saying that people are essentially mindless automatons like chickens?

How’d you come to this – is mind boggling.
I said that you effectively propose that lesser humans need help and guidance from superior humans to occupy them and protect and guide them through life and, as most preposterous, to “advance” them. Like chicken in the coop, this is what all ocupations do, “protect the crop and livestock”

Stewie

In PNG there are remote medical facilities that store vital life saving medicines – they are critical for the well being of not on visiting westerners, but for locals who suffer from various ailments ranging from snake bites to machete attacks.

One of my family friends when I was growing up was a specialist overseas retrievalist – he’d fly in and bring back insured locals when the local treatment was too risky or expensive and it best bring them back on a plane.

He told many amusing story of dealing with recoveries from the third world – one the most surprising and frequent problems, was locals simply unplugging refrigerators that stored these life saving medicines, rendering them useless, simply to watch a rugby game. This despite being told many times before of the importance of something so basic as keeping the power on.

So yes, there are some childlike humans who despite being relative sociable and well functioning in superficial conversation, are essentially retarded in terms of living in a modern well functioning society.

Unsurprisingly, the highest proportion of such individuals are generally found in those societies that were until recently, the most stone age in social development.

robert2013

How’d you come to this – is mind boggling.

Bit lazy with the interpretation? You didn’t spell it out.

I said that you effectively propose that lesser humans need help and guidance from superior humans to occupy them and protect and guide them through life and, as most preposterous, to “advance” them. Like chicken in the coop, this is what all ocupations do, “protect the crop and livestock”

There will always be elites.

A fly in your ointment

Yes, thats nature’s ways but it does not make it any good and it makes it morally reprehensible.
It is what separates beasts from mankind.

Gruppenführer Mark

You seem to have been triggered! Excellent!

Whatever floats your boat. Now on to the matter at hand.

Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire, Russian Empire and, actually, USA as we know it today were (and are) not thalassocracies, although all of these exhibited some thalassocratic tendencies. These became empires through tellurocracy, by the means of expanding to the nearby lands and assimilating these (and population to some extent – American Indians are an exception here).

This is in contrast to England, Spain, Portugal, etc. that were by the most part thalassocracies, sailing away and stripping the resources with little regard to assimilating the lands. And that is a huge reason why the four examples of tellurocracies I sighted above had far more stable and prosperous life, and a longer place in history, than thalassocracies. Hell, if you think of it, the two tellurocracies that still exist (Russia and USA) by and large retained all or most of their colonies, while thalassocracies have continued and are continuing to shed theirs. France is the most current example, and UK after WWII is responsible for more countries having an independence day than ever in history of this civilisation.

On to Hong Kong. True, it was a swamp, and British built it. But Chinese ceded control of the island to British Empire as a result of losing the First Opium War, which was fought to expand thalassocracy. Once a part of British Empire, it was built on coolie blood, sweat and tears. I recommend James Clavell’s The Nobel House that gives a decent description of Hong Kong after WWII, albeit being a work of fiction.

Singapore was there way before the British Empire showed up, known as Temasek and first mentioned in early 14th century by the Chinese. It itself was a part of several thalassocratic empires prior to Brits.

Now on to your beloved South Africa. Boers, while colonisers, actually made it a goal to assimilate the lands. Then the Brits showed up, and, in the course of Boer Wars, introduced the world to what later gave an inspiration to Hitler – concentration camps. If that is not an example of, as you say,

Colonisation is about developing the place so you can draw revenue from it long term

I don’t know what else is. I mean, extermination of the productive population, scorched earth – yeah, it is about development. And I am not even talking about India, et al.

You need to recalibrate either your moral compass on this one, or your perception of history, old boy.

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robert2013

Please tell me what moral position I have stated that has revealed my moral compass. I don’t think I’ve stated any moral position at all.

Thank you for giving me two new words: thalassocracy and tellurocracy. I’m not convinced about their usefulness in this analysis. Many exceptions seem to exist in the histories of your examples. I started listing them, but stopped because doing so wouldn’t settle the argument: you could just claim they’re exceptions proving the rule.

Power is retained through both carrot and stick. In all of the examples we have listed power was retained for centuries. You cannot retain power over those time frames with brutal extraction alone, nor with incentives alone. It’s about knowing when to apply what.

I don’t know much about the Boer war, but I do know that the British were in South Africa long before the Boer war. They stuck around long enough to do some developing. They were not just raiding, looting and leaving like Vikings.

Your claim that colonialism is at its core “stripping away any wealth possible” just isn’t true. It’s about developing a place enough so that you can keep farming it for long periods of time.

I wonder if we are talking at cross purposes. Such is the nature of this compressed communication.

Gruppenführer Mark

South Africa could solve its unemployment problem by drafting them all and sweeping North. Even if it didn’t win territory it could kill off large numbers of useless young men, the same would be true for the recipient of the attack. A win for all. 

This was the moral position that the whole thread started with, and the one that I originally disagreed with.

As to thalassocracy and tellurocracy, you are right, the history is not black and white. But you have to admit that the primary mechanism of expansion throughout history is primarily one of the two. USA expanded on land, but they also went off and colonised Hawaii, for example. Russian Empire and Alaska. Roman Empire and British Isles.

In all of the examples we have listed power was retained for centuries

I have argued that power retained through tellurocracy is retained for longer than that retained through thalassocracy.

I wonder if we are talking at cross purposes. Such is the nature of this compressed communication.

Could very well be, but I enjoyed the exchange.

the arborist

Except trading with them is almost pointless. What do they produce? Coffee beans and not much else.

Trading their resources like gas oil is fraught. They need foreigners to extract it for them – then the foreigners are called out for exploitation.

There is no path available for them to be a modern successful society. Tribal wars, subsistence farming, hunting and gathering, trading coffee beans and wooden trinkets is all they’ve got. Their manual labour is almost worthless.

They should be left to their own devices, but unfortunately this is impossible in the modern world. Instead, we import them to the western world in the mistaken belief that they will ever be anything other than Africans. Look at the issues in the US, generations have gone by and they are still essentially African. Much like their stupid bees.

Gruppenführer Mark

They should be left to their own devices, but unfortunately this is impossible in the modern world. 

Amen and alas!

Stewie

Colonization was a force for good in the world, it uplifted billions and saved millions of lives…. when Cortes arrived in Mexico, the Aztecs had just finished sacrificing 80,000 men to their corn Gods.

Their religious beliefs were such that they believed the rain would only come through sacrificing children and their tears would being happiness to the world, so they often skinned children alive so the rain would come. They even have whistles that are shaped in such a way as to mimic human screams.

It was common practise for North American Indians to genocide competing tribes – if they were lucky men were usually killed fighting to the death, women however, once they were raped, usually had their hands, fingers or feet cut off, ensuring they slowly died in coming days.

I have written about Indigenous Australians pracitices before, and the list goes on for practically every stone aged people that were colonised.

Colonization was undoubtably a force of good in the world, however as it also generally spread Christianity to those nations too, our Jewish overlords and their relativistic morality have done everything they can to invert the truth.

the arborist

No good deed goes unpunished.

Gruppenführer Mark

Mate, the Spanish decimated Aztecs, Incas and Mayas. Their culture, their religion, their way of life, education system.

And it was common practice for everyone back in the day to genocide competing tribes, not just Injuns. Some of it was done under the guise of Holy Wars, some to just fight off the enemy trying to muscle in onto your land. And it was done in Europe, Asia, Americas…

Colonisation was a force for good for Europe. The world – not so much. By colonisation I mean thalassocracy.

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Stewie

Mate, the Spanish decimated Aztecs, Incas and Mayas. Their culture, their religion, their way of life, education system.

…for the Aztecs a bloody good thing too! They were EVIL, I am happy to judge another society by how they treat their children or the children of their enemies.

Yes their education and cultural history was lost – but it was less a function of deliberate policies of genocide and more a function of population and cultural collapse following the introduction of new diseases… with about as much intention as a flock of birds brining bird flu.

The new world got measles and smallpox, the old world got Syphilis. The roll of the dice and it could have gone the other way.

The level of tyranny that Colonials inflicted on their conquered subjects varied from nation to nation, and I won’t disagree that there were many atrocities and thefts like looting the Incas as they collapsed (through disease).

However, this very quickly changed once the residual populations were Christianised – the church immediately extended to them human rights. That Spaniards could freely go around killing and enslaving locals is a myth.

But look at what they got in return – 10,000 years of human civilization bringing them up to speed with the rest of the world, massively improving their quality of life, their life expectancy, their human rights to exist free of the terror of having their hearts ripped out.

That civilization uplift alone was a bargain even if it was still paid for with whatever gold or silver had basically been picked up off the ground – a small fraction of the billions left in the ground… which would be utterly worthless today without civilization.

So, so fucken what that their stone age, child flaying culture was exterminated? The worst criticisms of Colonialists are still a thousand times less than the stone age cultures that were extinguished, which by and large was a product of introduced disease.

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A fly in your ointment

They need foreigners to extract it for them – then the foreigners are called out for exploitation.

The history of Libya, Iraq, Syria etc is where you perhaps need to research non msm sources. All of them were destroyed the moment they went their own ways extracting oil and tribal wars flaming did not destabilise them.
Libya in particular.

the arborist

Fair point, but I was talking about Africa. I know Libya is in the continent of Africa, but they’re more Arab than African.

A fly in your ointment

How any other mineral extraction any place else any different?
The point is that wars are forced onto any country which 1. Don’t want to extract minerals or 2. Wants to extract minerals by themselves.
99% of wars in Africa are/were created by anglo-judeo culture/power or western europeans.

the arborist

Africans are utterly unable to extract minerals themselves. Or keep trains, electricity, water, sewerage, peace, prosperity, etc running. So there’s THAT difference.

EZFKA’s minerals are extracted by foreigners and you never see media crying about the poor EZFKAians being exploited.

P.S. Just look at these 99% anglotrocities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conflicts_in_Africa
So yeah, 99% of this degeneracy is the white man’s fault.
Also, weren’t you talking a while back about South Africa becoming an peaceful and crime-free economic powerhouse? How’s that working out?

Stewie

The only way SA will every become a power house is if scientists work out how to generate power from black holes.

A fly in your ointment

So yeah, 99% of this degeneracy is the white man’s fault.

not a white man’s fault, as I said:

…wars in Africa are/were created by anglo-judeo culture/power or western europeans.

I understand the desire to conflate atrocities of western European cultures with all the white men, it makes a nice victimisation…
…what atrocities were purported by White Hungarians or White Romanians on African continent?

If Westerners stopped interfering by creating all those conflict from your link, chances of Africans developing increase exponentially. Even if they need assistance (everyone without tech does), partnership is a far better proposition then serfdom. That era of has finished…

I’ve given you enough ideas to think over why your original ideas are flawed and outright wrong. It is just to start you up in the right direction. It is now purely in your hands to reconsider, or close your eyes.

the arborist

I’m an idiot for attempting to engage with an idiot.

A fly in your ointment

nope, you’re just an idiot.

did your supremacy bubble just burst?.

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A fly in your ointment

Also, weren’t you talking a while back about South Africa becoming an peaceful and crime-free economic powerhouse? How’s that working out?

Not in those terms and not on that topic.
.
I was talking of RSA having less racism and xenophobia than this pond.
.
Their chance for less crimes comes from rise of black middle class which is the only one that can contain imported crime from illegal immigrants and emancipate lowest end of black societies to rise from utter poverty (not an easy task if you have 40mil bush agrarian people suddenly migrating to cities)

A fly in your ointment

EZFKA’s minerals are extracted by foreigners and you never see media crying about the poor EZFKAians being exploited.

I agree, it is absolutely depressing that they will endure so much and still not rebel.
Media is also foreign so it will not report on much but whydafaq ezfkers stand still whilst being fornicated is mind boggling. At most they ask for more Vaseline and take it standing still.

The90kwbeast

So Chinese warships do live fire drills off the coast of Australia disrupting flights and we couldn’t, at least from the reading I’ve done, muster a single frigate to shadow them. We instead eft it over to the kiwis, who had one frigate 650km away.

Our military is an embarrassment.

A fly in your ointment

Thise scenes where hordes roam streets of Ukraine “conscripting” anyone with a dick and a pulse for $300 reward per head may very well become scenes in Melbourne or Sydney or…

No1

They’re shit soldiers, but it’s a good way to thin the herd if you want to free up some houses etc., help put Australia under new management a bit faster without so much entitled scum who think they deserve a slice of the wealth.

A fly in your ointment

I doubt it works that way.
It first knocks out those who “deserve the slice of wealth” then if war is not lost by then it begins to cull the rest.
I understand the urge by some types for war in Aus, it would undo last 20-30 yrs of immigration moments after the first draft for blood taxes to yanks.

V

Here is food for thought. AU defence budget is ~50B/Yr. Instead of the nonsense they waste money on, lets say they spent 10% of that on missiles. At an estimate of $1m a missile, that is 5,000 missiles/yr.
Then when the Chinese float down here and declare an intention to do some live firing, you politely can say “terribly sorry, that area is already closed for our live missile testing”. Watch the expensive capital ship get moved ASAP.

A fly in your ointment

It don’t work like that for international waters.
Cannot close it permanently, Slopes make 10000000missiles per year, could have permanent drills in Sth China Sea

There’s a better way to stop slopes boats off Aus coast.. Stop sending our military boats off the coast of Slopelandia.

The90kwbeast

We’ve now got HMAS Arunta very closely shadowing. At last. Should have happened days ago.

A fly in your ointment

There’s nothing wrong with that. Slopes do it the same.
But, once again, if we were not being a lap dog for US MIC we’d not be in South Slopelandia Sea and they would not be here. There would be nuttin to shadow and seamen could play with their didgeridoo sompleace near Kings Cross.
The best way to deescalate is to take the first step to deescalate then see the other side

The90kwbeast

It seems obvious to me our military is woefully under equipped and prepared to deal with any kind of symmetrical warfare with an advanced opponent in the 2020s.

Hence the hail mary ridiculous sub deal to try and catch things up, and buying 200 tomahawk missiles which is hardly anything in the scheme of things

Gruppenführer Mark

Australia has natural defence, as Trump put it, “a big beautiful ocean”. All we need is coastal defence – bunch of radars and artillery / missile launchers.

Submarines were never about defence, they are about force projection, which Australia agreed to as a measure of support of our American allies in an event of a future war with China.

I disagree.
Subs are new naval fleet flagships (which recently became sitting ducks). Krauts had superiority bc of subs and it is still relevant as depths provide protection and relative invisibility and yet it can knock out any ship or even launch a ballistic missile.
BUT
Agree that EZFKA does not need subs of advanced tech if our coastal guard is impeccable. That should include advanced underwater guard. All it needs to do is avert another adventure like Darwin and Japs, which served only as a morale booster for them.

Australia has natural defence.
Oceans are partially it, but the biggest defence is complete and utter void of geostrategical importance. This only eclipsed by New Zeeland

Subs are new naval fleet flagships (which recently became sitting ducks). Krauts had superiority bc of subs and it is still relevant as depths provide protection and relative invisibility and yet it can knock out any ship or even launch a ballistic missile.

Presactly why I said

Submarines were never about defence, they are about force projection

I just see them as a defensive tool too. Like a rifle which vsn be offensive if required.

AU don’t need that many mid level tech subs, just enough to compliment coastal guard.Drone subs would be ideal.

The90kwbeast

Garbage. Neutrality just makes us an easy target.

A fly in your ointment

And having us nukes makes us…?

There are only a handfulmof places where neutrality works. AU and NZ are top of that list. Near zero geostrategical value. Should be joyful about it. Not dismissive

The90kwbeast

I didn’t mention nukes? If there is near zero strategic value then why are the Chinese ships here?

A fly in your ointment

I mentioned nukes as that is a nice example how to make oneself from “wheredafaq is this” to a nuke target, easy or not. No one has nukes aimed at NZ or even tries to have live ammo drils off their coast.

If there is near zero strategic value then why are the Chinese ships here?

You got your answers from both me and Gruppiefuhrer Mark. Slopes are here because we are there, and for the same reasons (with an exception that they have teeth and we are just a gnarling lap dog).
Our seamen played stupid yank game, we won stupid medal. Lucky it’s only participation medal for now. Not too late to stop.

The90kwbeast

Refer my other comment. We aren’t doing live fire drills 600km off the coast of Shenzen. Can you imagine if the shoe was on the other foot what the response would be?

Gruppenführer Mark

Doing live fire drills off the coast of Shenzen at that distance presents a good opportunity to hit something. There are lots of islands, lots of shipping, lots of economic zones that is likely to piss off lots of countries.

The90kwbeast

In any sort of hot war I’d imagine if there is already an enemy blue water navy within 1,000km of our shoreline the war is already over and our economy would already be falling apart from trade being blocked

Gruppenführer Mark

Depends on the end goal. If it’s just blockade, yes. We are screwed either way if someone wanted to blockade us. We have, from memory, 28 days of fuel reserves here on land, with our supply coming from Singapore. Blockade that and we are done.

If, on the other hand, invasion / occupation is the end goal, then coastal defence is the go.

Stewie

The biggest issue with Australia is logistics – any enemy can easily bring Australia to its knees, but attempting to hold it will also bring them to their knees.

Australia doesn’t really have to fear a permanent invasion – brining us to our knees for a prolonged period of time though is a real possibility.

The90kwbeast

Pretty much. If we’re down to coastal defence alone any war is already lost unless we could maintain some level of self sufficiency. Which I doubt we can once we run out of fuel.

Our entire military in particular our navy has woeful force projection. Why on earth did we buy two pointless floating helicopter dock targets. We’ve bought fighter jets that have some of the worst range and have no aircraft carrier to launch them from.

New Zealand also needs to start paying us to host some of our fighter jets permanently and increase their defence spending they are another massive sitting duck.

In my mind I actually think New Zealand is a far easier target than we are and could easily be invaded and occupied.

Gruppenführer Mark

There are a couple of issues with that plan. Someone somewhere needs to make those missiles, and the capacity (and capability) of the combined west is pretty much full. They cannot keep up with existing demand, let alone produce any number of new missiles for Australia’s needs. It isn’t like a computer game where if you have a number of tokens, you just click and a new plant appears. Needs trained staff, too.

Second issue are the delivery systems. These are way more complex than just a missile from design to actual build. Needs its own manufacturing base with highly trained personnel.

Third issue are the operators of said delivery systems. It takes a while to train a military person to use the launchers, radars, etc.

Gruppenführer Mark

“Off the coast of Australia” was something like 150 nautical miles. International waters. Just think about this next time someone tells you that sailing through South China sea is a freedom of navigation thing and should not alarm anyone.

Stewie

That’s exactly what this was about – Australia has been sailing through the Taiwan straits and this is pay back. The narrative managers are too busy hyperventilating over our impotence than to connect it to our earlier conduct and dismiss it was a sigh of quid pro quo.

The90kwbeast

We aren’t doing live fire drills under flight paths 600km off the coast of Shenzen mate

Gruppenführer Mark

You are going to tell me that firing some cannons from a frigate is capable of taking down a commercial jet 35,000 ft up in the air? You need a serious missile capability to do that, plus you have to specifically target a commercial airliner. This ain’t some drive-by shooting hapless victim who just happened to stand on a street corner.

This is bloviating by the MSM to sell you “China Bad” story.

The90kwbeast

You missed the part where airlines had to scramble to redirect flights

It appears we didn’t know what they were going to fire or test

This is also a precursor to the Chinese increasingly taking physical occupation of Antarctica IMO

Gruppenführer Mark

No, I didn’t miss that part. This was a decision made by private companies out of abundance of caution, or, perhaps, for some other reasons.

Chinese conducted a second round of fire drills off the coast of NZ in international waters. An important part from the linked piece:

Albanese was asked on Saturday if he would call president Xi Jinping in light of the incident but instead defended China’s right to carry out the exercise as it had not breached international law.

“It’s important to not suggest that wasn’t the case,” he said.

“What we have done is to make appropriate representation through diplomatic channels, including foreign minister to foreign minister.

“They could have given more notice but Australia has a presence from time to time in the South China Sea [and] this activity took place outside of our exclusive economic zone. Notification did occur.”

Making noise about purported danger is just that, noise. Albo at least knows the law. Now, why did this notification didn’t make it through to the airlines, who, in your words, had to “scramble” is another question.

The90kwbeast

Is it potentially because the Chinese in fact didn’t say they were going to do so…

“Aviation officials have revealed they first learnt of last week’s potential Chinese live-fire military exercise in the Tasman Sea after a Virgin Airlines pilot relayed warnings he had picked up mid-flight via an emergency radio frequency.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-25/chinese-warships-re-enter-australias-exclusive-economic-zone/104981612

Gruppenführer Mark

Guess than we have 2 possibilities. 1. Albo is lying and 2. The notification didn’t get passed down.

Albo apparently said all was legal.
Butt hurt, but legal

This is probably just a media hype concerted with .gov.au to not miss a perfect opportunity to sow chink fear sum more.
There is little evidence and ino ntegrity in claims that airlines did avert last minute. Unknown sources and experts in the field kind of claims, good for clicks and ads only.

Below link, between the lines it says all of the above.
https://theconversation.com/china-didnt-violate-any-rules-with-its-live-fire-naval-exercises-so-why-are-australia-and-nz-so-worried-250618

Gruppenführer Mark

Less than 3 months away from the election…. Why?

No shit, PVS.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/yale-scientists-study-suggests-covid19-vaccines-may-have-led-to-horrible-condition-pvs/news-story/e8bb30cf9b92f9595191000346014ada

Everything is a Syndrome now, no injury or assault or…. but then AIDS is a syndrome too.

Wonder what happened to that jabbadabba idiot Cuming… or Jim’s Jabbing Apologist

Fakenews.comau seems to be the undepletable source of pleasure.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-work/what-did-you-do-last-week-elon-musks-doge-sends-brutal-email-ultimatum-to-government-workers/news-story/83bcf38d2c8e517710fb0c7c98a40304

One can wish all dole officers and borough officials on their $150k+ get to be asked the same question ending with “or else”. Leaches

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Gruppenführer Mark

And back to our gold discussion from the previous thread.

This piece highlights “exodus of gold bullion” from Bank of England. Quote to note:

The wait to withdraw bullion stored in the Bank’s vaults has risen from a few days to several weeks as traders rush to take advantage of differences in price.

This piece says the issue is Trump’s plan to audit Ft. Knox, which caused NY price to be higher than London price, causing flow of physical bullion across the Atlantic. What are the chances that this flow is really to restock Ft. Knox, as there really ain’t no gold in them thar hills?

Finally, a bit of history (from a bullion seller, so no doubt talking its own book) that draws some parallels between today’s events and the events of 1968 London Gold Pool collapse.

The90kwbeast

Not sure I’d ever trust owning gold in anything other than a safe at my house

Gruppenführer Mark

Physical possession is the key.

OzCuck

Silver Kangaroo 57 dolla. I remember when 34 dolla. Waahhhh.

brucelee
Gruppenführer Mark

I remember $6

What are the chances that this flow is really to restock Ft. Knox, as there really ain’t no gold in them thar hills?

If it is indeed as claimed, it would not be a natural, market movement, more like a conspiracy to cover up vacuous vaults. Yes, could be scrambling to buy physical gold so that some can be shown as Potemkins stacks. Or perhaps an attempt at Schroedinger gold, which is present here and there and everywhere but perhaps it does not exist at all?

OzCuck
A fly in your ointment

😂

Gruppenführer Mark

Coming! Paging Coming!

Brucey is back in da courts. Living tha thug life!

Gruppenführer Mark

Things are getting fun in the Trump administration.

First, came the demand to report on weekly progress or face termination. Then, some department heads told their employees not to respond. And now Elon says the workers who didn’t respond will get the second chance.

Elon Musk, who recently threatened federal workers with termination if they did not respond to an email asking what work they completed in the last week, said Monday workers who did not reply will get another chance to do so at President Donald Trump’s “discretion”—the latest development over the emails after a growing number of agency heads, including Kash Patel and Tulsi Gabbard, told their employees not to respond.

Do I smell some infighting, or just lack of coordination?

And now comes the second blow. Show up to work or be placed on administrative leave, compliments of Elon.

Stewie

I am a big admirer of Elon, he’s the Howard Hughes * 10 of our generation, and I firmly believe that he alone has actually helped push forward Civilization beyond the inertia that was already carrying it forward from the 1980s.

That said I think he should probably take a leaf out of Howard’s page and retreat somewhat from the public eye – should he do it sooner rather than later it probably lessens the chance that he’ll see out his days collecting bottles of piss above a Las Vegas casino.

Seriously though, it is apparent that he’s opening a vector of attack on Trump by progressives, and with the increasingly shrill msm crying out in fear against any display of masculine initiative, it increases the likelihood that some manufactured event or conflict drives a schism into the worlds strangest bromance.

IMHO he should commence 100 days of solitude, like some cistern monk and give the matriarchy a chance to impotently seethe some more.

Capture-Copy-20
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LSWCHP

Some very insightful work on the negatives of mass immigration from Helen Dale, backed up by Lorenzo Warby.

https://www.notonyourteam.co.uk/p/the-failure-of-economists?r=rkty0&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

Highly recommended.

A fly in your ointment

Nice tale. He starts from a perspective that all this is some form of near-natural market event or at worst a few nefarious actors and that’s a bit naive.
Excessive immigration is a feature designed to make rich men richer at first (the GDP phase), then to create an unsolvable problem where “aboriginals” will begin a class war against “invaders” and then sell them both arms (a civil war – Joogoslavia scenario).
As I said so many times, issue is systemic and an evolutionary decay of liberal capitalism . Solutions cannot be found by isolating a few jews here or few slopes there as guilty parties. Only the revolution can change that course.

robert2013

Yes very good but we don’t need more words. How come all these word smiths (us included) can’t organise a gathering, let alone an uprising?

the arborist

Because;

  • we’re still too well off and still have too much to lose
  • every time someone stands up, the media machine labels them racist nazis
  • the government uses every tool in their power to crush opposing opinion and keeps passing laws to criminalise it

But yeah, I share your frustration. I’m pretty sure the majority of legazens, and even some new EZFKAians are fed up, but too scared to stick their heads up from behind the parapets.

LSWCHP

About that cryptocurrency, block chain, security, integrity, all transactions are logged yadder ladder bullshit…

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/02/25/north-korea-plunders-worlds-crypto-markets-biggest-heist/

robert2013

Can’t read. Found this:

https://cyberscoop.com/bybit-lazarus-group-north-korea-ethereum/

I reckon this is a good dip to buy BTC.

LSWCHP

Sorry, I’m a Telegraph subscriber.

tl;dr The Norks nicked $1.5 billion via social (ie non-tech) hack on a crypto exchange in the muddle East.

“Herro..if you tell me password I suck your miniscule Arab cock (if I can find it with microscope) and ruv you rong time” appears to be an effective cyber attack vector for middle east based crypro exchanges.

Also, all Arab “men”, due to 14 centuries of inbreeding, have (a) penises the size of mustard seeds or (b) corkscrew penises, like pigs that are (c) the size of mustard seeds anyway. These are well known biological facts.

Think of this the next time you see an Arab man, and try not to laugh.

robert2013

Yeah….my link got the idea I think.

My point is that if the BTC dip’s primary cause was weak retail hands taking their money out of exchanges because of the NK hack, or NKs selling, then stronger, institutional hands are not going to follow, and may use it as a chance to increase holdings. The NK seem to have been traced pretty fast. They’ll have a hard time exiting.

Peachy

Btc is good buying at $78k

robert2013

I’m fully invested so unable to act. Hope someone else did.

robert2013

Pretty funny story

OzCuck

We’ve played the liberal game, what do you guys think about making us more like Saudi Arabia? A self respecting nationalist state that takes all the money for itself.

The general view of nationalism is poverty and people on welfare, and to their credit the likes of NSN will champion their cause, but we can be rich and powerful, and have a genuine voice and sovereignty.

No offense but the marketing is a bit off.

Gruppenführer Mark

If you are lucky enough to be born Saudi, you pretty much have a free ride (or nearly so). This does come with some strict rules though – imagine no alcohol or sex outside of marriage! 😀

The rest of the residents are not so lucky.

Of course, if Australia ever goes that way, we will have two fights on our hands: determining the cut-off as to who is Australian, and who is resident, and cutting all TNCs from the Australian natural resource teat.

OzCuck

One test should be that you can drink at least 10 beers and be able to drive sufficiently well and drink a few litres of full cream milk without any lactose intolerance issues.

Gruppenführer Mark

And consume a 300gm scotch fillet wrapped in bacon.

On bibas case, for resident joo lover:

Bibas family threatens to sue Israeli govt as official propaganda on hostage killings unravels

The Bibas family demands the Israeli government cease exploiting the deaths of their family members for propaganda purposes as layers of evidence support claims an Israeli airstrike killed them.

https://t.me/AussieCossack/33522

Tiny Z cannot be humiliated more than this by anyone, particularly by a potus. In fact I’ve never seen any president ever humiliated more than this by anyone (perhaps only Dubya by the shoe throwing).
Edit:
(Apologies fpr lack of better link, the little ruskie grifter publishes it first)

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The90kwbeast

It’s fair to say the US support for Ukraine just ended

A fly in your ointment

…or support for Ukraine and its people just begun. Glass half full thingo

Ironic Boomer

Fair point. Reminds me of this tweet
https://x.com/PeterDutton_MP/status/1891676560618393872
Notice how the statement conflates ‘President Zelenskyy…’ with ‘the Ukrainian people’.
It’s similar to how a Ukranian person could stand with the Australian people, but not the dutton albanese cheeks of the Australian government uniparty arse.

The90kwbeast

By the US? What?

A fly in your ointment

.. to stop them fom being slaughtered, deaths courtesy of deep state.

https://t.me/AussieCossack/33523

More of it and even worse.

The best meme so far is that Monica Lewinskyy has been dethroned as the most fuçkêd person in Oval Office
🤣

1000014083
canuckdownunder

And in the Aussie media you wouldn’t even know what was going with the Ukraine situation, it’s nothing but wall to wall fag coverage this weekend.

Dude

One is reminded of Aesops’ fable of the Ant and the Grasshopper:

https://fablesofaesop.com/the-ant-and-the-grasshopper.html

In fact, it’s practically the prevailing paradigm for the whole damned country.

robert2013

No point looking at MSM. They just follow the script: anything nation building bad, Opposite good. Goes for finance too.

No1

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14450987/Britain-Ukraine-billion-loan-Government-aid-frozen-Russian-assets.html

Trump correctly identified that the autistic f@ggot European leaders will never give up on this war. Instead of the US donating its weapons, the weapons will be bought by Europe.

Just like immigration, once a grift starts, it can only accelerate.

robert2013

Could be a good way to get rid of useless brown youth in western europe – send them to the front line in Ukraine. Russia’s doing it with NK?

OzCuck

$37M for “female empowerment” in Colombia”

 $10M for “Mozambique voluntary medical male circumcision”

Doge.gov

Gkzq8OAWoAElPA9

I think I finally found a convenient graph which confirms Chinese RE “bloodbath” claims by out demigods Llewdo and Bleatho of EmBee.
As with theirs graphs, this one shows a line going down and another one going up but, if true, it explains why chinks are exiting RE and it may appear as their RE is “crashing”

Screenshot_20250302-234027_Firefox

3+ minutes of a slow motion of a Galloway mallet hitting a face of unimaginative idiot like Pierce Morgan

https://substack.com/@saltcubeanalytics/note/c-96824288

LSWCHP

This is the definitive breakdown on why mass immigration from third world shitholes is A Very Bad Thing in Every Way.

https://substack.com/home/post/p-158036044

Definitely worth reading.

The90kwbeast

Thanks for sharing.a fantastic read that is worth getting to the end of.

It’s the good old (excessive) immigration benefits the transient wealthy, and C suite class, and is to the detriment of absolutely everyone else.

Nemesis

Amazing article, great point about Japan rejecting mass immigration thus far and still having more of a future than us

The90kwbeast

Absolutely. A slow decline giving you many decades to court correct is preferable to rapid ethnic and cultural replacement.

Immigration should be cut 75% and replaced with a baby bonus program again if we’re that desperate for higher population.

The90kwbeast

Also it comes down to who is ‘us’. Average citizen Joe is just a replaceable economic unit to be milked.

‘Us’ is more about the future of the top 1% having power and control, and a guarantee of revenue growth for their businesses and investments.

Which to my other comment makes it all the more treasonous a baby bonus isn’t even being discussed as an option. Probably because that costs money now whilst immigration is supposedly ‘free’.

LSWCHP

Everyone involved with that story should be shot at dawn, for the greater good.

A Fly In Your Ointment

https://t.me/gerardrennick/2253

Some sanity in the asylum.
Too rare and too far in-between

OzCuck

I mentioned his party before.

Looks like a few people have stepped up. Noice.

https://peoplefirstparty.au/team/

You should run for them im sure they’d love to have a few ethnics.

A fly in your ointment

I voted once in very very long time ago and realised if I don’t want to be a clown I must not participate the circus act.
I’m an ultra right wing anarchist.
Politics is for pussies

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OzCuck

Wogs are the most basedest in Europe. You’re in Spartan mode.

I could still smash all of you though.

A fly in your ointment

All?
Nope, we have that fag, the Alexander the Great and even Gerrard Buttler is on our side. A pom but improved. I read Chuck Norris is wog too.

Aussie Soy Boy

They are still trying to hype this tropical storm. The media is shameful.

Nemesis

Always was, always…

Lord K

What has happened to this site? No more outrage at what is happening to Australia? Given up? In any case, as I am told the levee in Lismore is about to be topped, I am reminded of the flood of people that still arrives in Australia, even as more houses are wrecked and ruined to make the crisis much worse. As a result, I will paste a passage from the epic Camp of the Saints as the hordes from the Ganges are approaching Europe.

” In short, they decided to sit back and wait. The only distant reaction worth noting comes to us from Australia. Set off by themselves in their remote corner of the planet, the Australians have the distinction of belonging to the white race. They live like nabobs in that vast, empty land, assured of the limitless wealth of their mines and their flocks. One thing they do quite well is read maps. The armada, when it left the mouth of the Ganges, appeared to head south. To the south lies Indonesia. Skirt it as far as the Straits of Timor, and suddenly, there’s Australia—precisely the route the Japanese were taking through the Pacific in World War II, before they were stopped just in time at the straits. Meeting in Canberra, as it did every Tuesday, for supposedly “routine deliberations”—a prosperous and vulnerable nation knows how to conceal its panic—the government published a communiqué, which, though buried in a mass of other texts, didn’t pass unnoticed. “The Australian government,” it stated, “considers it necessary to call attention to the fact that entry of all foreign nationals into the country is subject to the provisions of the Immigration Act, and that under no circumstances will these provisions be abated or rescinded.” Plain and simple. Now, when you consider the model severity of the Australian Immigration Act, encouraging, as it does, the entry of Greeks, Italians, Spaniards, English, French—in short, all those white of skin and Christian of soul, while relentlessly excluding any trace of yellow, black, or brown—you will understand that, for the Australians, champions of the Western World stuck away in the farfiung hinterlands of Asia, this reminder was intended to rally public sentiment. It encouraged the Australians, in rather veiled terms, to steel themselves against undue compassion, and served notice on the Ganges fleet to keep its distance. Australia is a free country, and its press releases aren’t censored. In no time the news had circled the globe. In the sickest of the Western nations, it crackled through the air like a racist manifesto, to a caustic accompaniment of slur and aspersion. It was clear to the beast that the battle had at last been joined. In London, Paris, Washington, Rome, The Hague, great mobs of young people, shaggy but well behaved, laid peaceful siege to the Australian embassies, with rhythmic chants of “Ra-cists Fas-cists We’re-All-from-the-Ganges- Now!” 

Here is the link to the free English version of the book from 1973 by Jean Raspail you cannot buy- Camp_of_the_Saints_2col .pdf

Nemesis

The childless nihilists have no future and revel in the downfall of Australia as a conciliation prize

Aussie Soy Boy

Lismore is on a flood plain. Let’s hope these people learn their lesson this time.

Lord K

Third time will prove it. Many are still reeling from the other 2 recent floods. The town centre and all low lying areas must be prohibited from habitation. Business can name their own rents as the place is “awash” with tenancies.

Dude

Oh, yeah….us Aussies are really good at learning lessons from lived experience:

Flood drills and alarms part of the new normal as flood-prone land used to solve housing crisis

Mark Stockwell is one of the few Brisbane developers willing to mention the “F word” to prospective buyers.

The entirety of West End, just 1 kilometre from the CBD, is a flood plain, but the demand for housing means skyscrapers are going up anyway.

“We have got to realise Brisbane is on a flood plain, but we have to be prepared for it, have plans in place, and design buildings that can cope,” he said.

“But I think we are all getting smarter when we build in areas like these — smarter and safer.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-20/developments-approved-on-flood-plains-housing-crisis/104938284

See?

All we have to do is be smarter and safer and we can build wherever we damned well please.

The90kwbeast

Brisbane river is dammed. There is a big difference to that and Lismore.

Dude

Oh dear…..did I forget to put the /s at the end.

Aussie Soy Boy

Once in 100 year event moite

JimsCentralBanking

Check out the state of this build:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT6FVvz09cM

It’s like they were actually trying to fuck it up.

I wouldn’t touch any recent build in VIC. It would have to be double brick in order to even consider it.