So with BTC now once again below 60k where to now?

It looks to me to have decisively fallen below the 200wma – historically that could suggest we are within 10-20% of the bottom, which would take it to the mid upper 40’s around $47k, just dipping below 50k, which seems reasonable if this was a normal cycle.
But is this a normal cycle? We haven’t even had the trigger for the capitulation sell off yet, it has just been a slow relentless grind all the way down from $120k to $60k.
Then there is this guy…

Michael Saylor lost $6bn in a day back in the tech wreck of 2000, which adjusted for inflation I reckon he would be approaching again today, albeit over a longer time frame, having lost $16bn of value since October last year…. but as he still holds another $64bn in Bitcoin through ‘Strategy’ the possibility still exists that he could beat his previous record.
There must still be some true believers out there? Robert? Peachy? Is Saylor still the Messiah or is he just a very naughty boy?
Where to now? What’s the play? HODL for longer or get the hell out of Dodge?

BTC to zero eventually, I reckon. There just seems to be too much dodginess about it, and eventually everybody involved will have had enough, and there will be a rush for the exits.
In the meantime, fortunes will no doubt be made and lost
Indeed.
new cryptos can be ‘printed’ ad-infinitude and no amount of artificial limitation will compensate for limitations imposed by nature.
I thought 65k would be the bottom so I am out. I think the market wants to test Saylor. Strategy holds ~840000 BTC. It’s around 5% of all bitcoin if you take out the estimated number of lost coins. On any measure this is a huge risk. Not only because a forced sale will tank the BTC price, but also because the value of the BTC holdings dwarfs the value of Strategy’s software business. The dividend requirements of STRC and STRK are the part that could trigger forced sales. Understanding exactly how those work is beyond my interest and possibly my ability. It seems to me that you should not hold BTC in a falling market unless you understand how those things work.
The long term future of bitcoin is unclear now. It is not for everyday transactions. It’s slow, expensive, and not private. Stablecoins are faster and cheaper and will no longer primarily be used to provide USD liquidity to BTC markets. They are taking over cross border transfers. Zcash and monero offer privacy. BTC’s decentralisation and public ledger are advantages that remain, but who really needs to pay a premium for decentralisation? Which leaves its fixed supply, making it arguably a harder form of money than gold.
My view for some years has been that BTC is ideal money for central banks and for intergovernmental transfers. With BTC, governments don’t have to trust one another, can see the source of every bit of BTC, and don’t have to ship gold bars which can meet trouble in transit. However, for this to happen the BTC price needs to be big enough and liquid enough to support transactions of very high value. I used to think it was inevitable, but I’m not sure now because because of the other coins that have overtaken BTC in speed, cost and privacy.
It’s too early IMO to call the BTC cycle dead. I expect the cycle to continue to follow the halvings but with less than 1 million BTC still mineable, it’s not the halvings that are causing the cycle directly. It’s more like an echo of halvings past embedded in market dynamics. BTC could reach up to $150k IMO.
Yeah – I’ve never been a believer in the ‘digital gold’ narrative, believing that it had to ‘do work’ (a fat lot of good that belief did for me).
Regardless, even if the digital gold narrative is valid, I don’t see how an asset that can be bought up by an ex-coke head trying to corner a market, can be seen as the sort of digital gold that Reserve Banks and Governments will ever take seriously… I personally think a lot of Trumps pandering to crypto is just patronising, tolerance to a problem that they believe will eventually die of its own accord.
Crypto is such a twenty ten’s story.
Trump and Bessent are setting up USD stablecoins to ensure USD dominance persists. They’re not so interested in Bitcoin, but they don’t mind it.
I am not a financial planner this is not financial advice. I played with BTC through the ETFs and sold after moving house. This was my only foray into BTC and I absorbed a lot of media from the ideologues to nepotism babies who didn’t want to do any work and still feel more important than everyone else. During that time I came across Michael Howell who posited that BTC was a liquidity pool, as global liquidity is high so too is the BTC price. He now fears global liquidity is tapped out. Make of that what you will.
https://youtu.be/CDK7G4lTKII?si=BbPqJosn90vSo6PO
BTC,
meh
farken immos tearing up the fabric of the culture.
Must be a poojeet or a negro, eh?
Why don’t you start a Facebook page to catalogue your list of crimes. Nobody gives a shit here.
But wait, this is the tradition youse types created and nourished. I’m just trying to assimilate.
it’s over for shitcon imo. there might be one more cycle in this piece of shit but people are starting to wake up to how retarded this “asset” is. at least with AI data centres you get a chatbot you can write porno fan fics with from all the electricity you waste, with crypto you don’t get anything.
That’s an obvious and tired argument that’s been dealt with many times elsewhere.
Load up then, nobody knows who is going to be right. if this isnt the last cycle there is money to be made
Part 3 from DLS:
https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2026/06/how-the-victorian-panopticon-destroyed-my-three-children/
A moron.
His “truth telling” is an indusputible argument to the contrary.
This is the same guy that got the housing crash wrong at every turn for the past 16 years right…?
That passage was way OTT.
He’s a raving lunatic on heavy drugs. I don’t believe any of it
Yeah – you might be right… part 4 is out !
https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2026/06/psycho-nurse-unleashed-upon-melbourne-public/
Leith must be tearing out what little hair remains on his head as his mentor and partner comes apart at the seams.
This is going to stick to Leitho who was an upstanding bloke
It is an outrageous story, hence likely plausible in a nutshell. I trust not one single .gov.au employee or the laws to be bona fide,
but the amount of fluff Llewdo put in his tales is the size of a small Galaxy.
A moron, with an imagination though
…and part 4 from DLS’s medical drama:
https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2026/06/psycho-nurse-unleashed-upon-melbourne-public/
I feel bad for him he seems like he’s been in a terrible place for years. He always seemed big league sloshed out in those podcasts he used to do
His remark in his post “we barely even drink” stood out to me…
That came juxtaposed to
As if booze is the only substance
Life.on.Zolof
COVID broke him… it broke a lot of people but that was where it began.
When arguably the biggest medical beat up of all time occurred, orchestrated by our own Governments with willing collusion by the msm.
It was the one moment when a true contrarian could have broken free of the masses and the false safety of consensus, instead he simply proved to everyone that he was just another sheep. FFS I use to mock him about cowering behind the sofa in his basement living in fear of it
I wonder how many of his health issues are a result of getting the vac?
I feel bad for all those whom he vehemently dissuaded from buying their home BC crash is just 18 months away.
He’s completely flipped out. He would have been heavily abusing booze and prescription or illicit drugs in the past, and now he’s past the point of no return he’s on the anti psychotic medication. He’s done. I dealt with someone like this in the past. Same ramblings, same paranoia, same persecution complex. Some of it maybe true but let’s face facts all of this can be tracked on computers, there’s an audit log, they can check out cctv. Hopefully they take his kids away from him. Unfortunately for the other guys Leitho and Gunna, this druggie Dave is the admin to the site. Who would even have money in their fund at this point lol. They need to be shut down. It’s hard to feel sorry for him he was such an a-hole to anyone that defied him
Verbose Gunna is just a less psychotic version of Llewdo.
Bleato is a NPC in the whole story.
All in all…. when their Super fund goes tits up, predictably, Llewdo may be exculpated based on his mental condition. A silverline?
Drat – I had started to reply to SoyBoy and been called away to a task and you beat me to the punch!
I have to say he his comment in part 3:
…had me looking for the sarcastic chaser – but there was none. That’s how he ranks himself !!! blah ha ha ha haha ha!
It’s starting to look as if the men in white will be knocking soon, but he did provide quite a bit of detail about how the VIC computer system was compromised. I work in a public service role and I know people in others, albeit not in VIC. In my opinion there is no systematic management. It’s all dependent on the individual staff. Periods of high staff turnover result in system failure. New recruits struggle to get it working, but with little documentation and insufficient training, they never really get on top of things…imagine this happening for decades. This is a consequence of career politicians (the uniparty), mostly BA or LLB grads, running the show for too long. It would not surprise me if what DLS said about the MARAM (?) system was true. However, if doesn’t appear in the court reports it didn’t happen. I’ll hold my judgement until then.
USD $50k is next still IMO
Resist Tyranny!
What these people are doing is Sizyphian
Youse types always like watching clamping down on people who think for themselves, those who do not toe in to “higher power” youse toe in. Those who do not dwell in quiet desperation.
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/resist-tyranny-nsw-gp-suspended-in-pandemic-calls-out-witch-hunt-promises-war/news-story/159d961605f6d753864f80d086e87ae3
11000 lose their super. $1,1bil
50 colonial cents bet that EmBee’s super fund is nearby, pending a wipeout of all the 12 members. Llewd and legally insane fund managers cannot be prosecuted.
https://www.news.com.au/finance/money/financial-misconduct-victim-fund-missing-170m-amid-claim-spike/news-story/4c2dee3bff21ca42e2316a82da5e7a62
Part 5 from DLS.
https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2026/07/rise-and-rise-of-the-weaponised-social-worker/
hard to believe, but it has been noted before that truth is stranger than fiction by better minds than mine.
LOL – all his trials and tribulations are just psychotic women. He still doesn’t realise we now live in a Matriarchy and what he is experiencing is the very reason for limiting women’s roles in our institutions and narrative setting framework.
You just have to turn on the news and see a state or federal politician presser. They love to be flanked by 6 middle age women all wearing ridiculous glasses and do nothing but stand there and nod with a sour look on their faces. They always look like the biggest cunts. Fuck I can’t stand it hahaha
Chesterton’s biggest and most important fence has always been limiting the role of women in our social narrative and decision making superstructure; institutions, etc.
Indeed, the older I have grown the more I have come to realise that social customs like the Muslim veil aren’t there to protect women from the stares and harassment of arab incels, but to protect society from women’s suicidal empathy and neurotic vindictiveness.
Question for you: seeing what you see now, would you partner with a woman if you didn’t already have one?
Of course – a fair question I suppose given how critical I have become of their influence on society, and how I have experienced specific examples of female toxicity in my own working life.
I am talking about “women” as a collective social entity, and how they change the function of institutions and decision making, as individuals there are many strong attractive females. The sexual attraction remains strong and the emotional connection with women I have loved is something that I’ve never had anything close to with any of my male friendships (few as they are too). I’ve certainly never felt protective over a mate or a friendship, compared to a woman I’ve loved.
However the pool of women who I find attractive from an intellectual or personality perspective, in terms of what I would tolerate or be prepared to push through in order to get to know them is probably smaller today. Honestly around 40% of women are infuriating to be around, they are like petulant, selfish, stupid children and there is another 40% or so, who although they are quite pleasant and tolerable to be around, just bore me. Younger me shagged literally anything, but the women I am attracted to in terms of personality; low neuroticism, high conscientiousness, your ENTP, ESTP or ENFJ personality types are not particularly common in terms of their expression among women. I regularly pinch myself over being lucky enough to have found my wife the first time, it was time, luck and circumstances -living my life again I don’t know how long or successful I would be in finding such a match again.
Once you try and throw in “intelligence matching” i.e. finding someone of an equivalent intellect when you are two or three standard deviations away from the mean, then the pool of women you are prepared to be with, rather than simply be a wombat towards (eats, roots and leaves) is even smaller. It is the same issue as many people have making friends that they can connect with deeply – you generally connect with people who operate at a similar level of intellectual ability as yourself, usually within a SD of yourself – more than that and you either find yourself bored or with someone you have trouble understanding. There are literally smaller pools of people with those capabilities to connect with the further along the curve you reside – they exist, but are more spread out in society so it becomes harder to connect with them.
You can always make yourself dumber in order to increase your available pool to combat loneliness, drinking excessively, smoking pot – there was a House episode once where House encountered someone smarter than him, who was deliberately taking some medicine to create a mental fog to make himself dumber so that he could better connect with the woman he loved. I’m certainly not that smart, but his motivations were something I could understand.
If the worst occurred and I found myself alone again, at my age I doubt I would actively seek someone out to pair bond with again, it was a hard enough search the first time. I would be open to it, but I wouldn’t go actively looking for it – it would be easier and cheaper to just pay someone to scratch that itch.
🤮☝️
It is my sincere hope that you will never truly understand that phrase.
If that non-sequitur makes you sleep better, then so be it.
Unimaginative online idiots are the last persona I’d discuss my family matters, despite your darting… I just don’t drag my family through cesspool sediment you’ve made this place.
Given the onset of women hate puke, should we rename EZFKA to MGTOW/Incel dot com?
1. That’s because you don’t have any.
2. I barely mentioned anything about them other than some high level personality traits that are so generic they could be about anyone… go find your fainting couch and compose yourself.
Yep sure Spewie. That’s why I Spew incel women hate at every opportunity.
Unimaginative idiot
25 years and going strong – probably one of the main reasons why I would have trouble considering ‘going again’, it would be a pale imitation of what I have already experienced.
I pity you.
Yep, Sure thing Spewie, whatever you spew, no one doubts.Every post has several instances of you claiming that. Why so often?
Tnx for “pity” me, LOL. Unimaginative, as usual.
Because for some reason you keep claiming otherwise, so I keep repeating myself because you appear to be somewhat retarded and unable to take in new information.
Bollocks, I did not claim anything. Of all the people here only you ever mentioned how supreme you are bc a family from which you project how lonely and pity others are.
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I do regular remind you of your words that there’s a family which sometimes let’s you be near them whilst they watch a romcom.
Your words!
This onset has come about for good reason – the recent trend to see gender equity displayed through token social goals like seeing a balance of men and women working in practically all professions, has resulted in increasing examples of problems of allowing women to participate in our social narrative.
From suicidal empathy to ineffective and dangerous policing, to shaping important social policies like immigration, the role of women in our social narratives are having increasingly impactful outcomes. – like the recent SCOTUS court case about birthright citizenship. Basically every woman on the court agreed with the concept, even though the rules the Trump administration are trying to enforce are expressly described in the preamble of the Amendment as to what they amendment is meant to allow.
Finally, it isn’t just men and the MGTOW incel crowed who are noticing it. Many women also can see issues with female leadership and assumptions around women’s harmful impacts on the functioning of society.
As a social topic it is worthy of discussion, we’ve had 40 years of being lectured about toxic feminimity – the only people who pretend that it doesn’t exist are delusional women and lecherous ‘male feminists’ like you.
Those lame tards who carry on like white knights purely as a mind game theory to fool themselves into thinking they’ll be more liked for always coming to their rescue (hint: they won’t, they’ll think you are weak).
https://x.com/Rach4Patriarchy/status/2045268996455276925
Tl;dr
But you did not blame jews so kudos, that’s an improvement.
Roberto, you asked and here’s why ezfka.com is doomed to die.
It is turned into incel diatribe Spewing fiesta with every women hate shyte like above.
Oh, so you did read at least part of, let me pull out the most relevant comment for yourself:
As I said above, plenty of open minded, low neurotic women agree with me:
https://x.com/Rach4Patriarchy/status/2045268996455276925
Spiritually you are just a neurotic, hysterical woman.
Dream on… tl;dr
Diatribe stinks the moment the page is opened.
I’m sure women agree with you.
It may take a black eye but eventually the bitch deserved it, eh?
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Good to see some indigenous Australians picking up on the discussion of what it means to be Australian, and who exactly is an Australian.
My personal view is that Indigenous Australians can be viewed as ‘Old Testament’ Australians, and the AngloCeltic colonies and Indigenous Australians who integrated and assimilated into it should be seen as the ‘New Testament’ Australians.
If you are not one of those two groups then you are not Australian, rather you an immigrant or the children of immigrants in the process of ‘becoming’ Australian, as your family line are assimilated into our identity and brothers and sisters.
https://x.com/realRick_AUS/status/2072483207141019859
Not even Yankees call them selves indigenous and yet they created a world empire so have an absolute roight to claim that title.
But kudos for not mentioning Jews and Freudian slipping the label on Abos as true indigenous people.
But let’s see…. you claim that indigenous should integrate and assimilate into colonisators culture to retain their “indigenousness”?
LOL, Spewie at his best.
If your intellect is leading in your culture, no wonder this cuntry is flucked at every turn. I begin to believe that youse would’ve flucked it long time ago and much faster if it was not for wogs and now slopes and poojeets saving it. A farken cognitive dissonance to say this.
How dare you question that black fellas identity – you really are a racist wog immigrant.
Australia was built by black fellas and white fellas, particularly rural Australia, yet because a large number of indigenous Australians integrated and assimilated into the AngloCeltic nation we know as Australian you are prepared to strip them of their identity… how very jewish of you.
They should obviously have retained a detailed account of their genealogy like the jews do back to King David in order to assert their “indigenousness”.
😆😆😂😂
Tnx for a round of laugh.
…and there are plenty of black fellas who integrated and assimilated into the colonies – why should their indigenous heritage be denied simply because they identify first as Australian?
It is they through the union of the two people’s who’ve had the most to do with the founding of Australia where true reconciliation has taken place. The can never be any reconcilation under the jewish, globalist griveance politics – the whole purpose is to keep everyone seperate and distinct.
Jews and ethnonarcassistic migrants like yourself, value your own distinct ethnic identity – that is why the thought of ‘become us’ i.e. part of the AngloCeltic people’s who founded Australia, is so repugnant to you… we disgust you, even though you moved here to take every advantage of the society my ancestors built. You are just as racists as you accuse us of being, but you’ve been so preached to via the media that you feel morally justified with yours.
For a jew hater you’re underwhelmingly un/mis informed. It’s the jews who funded colonisation and set business foundation to this cuntry. Youse were just the metaphorical bricklayers. Brickies don’t claim every house they ever built as their own, eh?
Ofcourse all wogs value own ethnicity, only an idiot would not. Poms are worse.
I know plethora of voluntary migrants from England to Aus who refuse bogan culture and don’t mix with youse types. They find you more repugnant than all others combined.
The part to which you’re oblivious despite the obvious is that it is **your** “culture” which is repugnant to the rest (even more to poms), not the Australian culture. Youse types think bc you bear some similarly with Aussie culture that it is the same. Alas… the dunny time is over….so your time is up…
Testify
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/KLsHeqt9yOE
First world country…
99% of the voters will not understand implications leading to that. Not one iota of it.
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Investment properties are like Browndo. Because Browndo has electrolytes, it’s good for you! We need more investment properties and more immigration to sustain “the value of RE only goes up”… and that’s what polies give them.