Labor moves to centrally plan economy. More protests required.


Labor has raised their 2035 decarbonisation target in order to acheive net zero by 2050 and be a “world leader”. They insist it is an economic opportunity.

The world is not going to buy green steel made from hydrogen unless it is cheaper and better for building things with than steel made with coal. They aren’t going to buy solar power delivered by long undersea cables that makes them vulnerable to the whims of Australian governments and can be cut by hostile actors when they can make their own power from other sources they control. They aren’t going to buy “green” fertiliser not made from natural gas unless it is cheaper and/or better at fertilising. They aren’t going to buy liquid fuel made from plant oils unless it is cheaper and better at being fuel than the kind that nature made from dead organisms millions of years ago.

If there were truly profitable opportunities in greening existing products, they would be worked on by the private sector without the need for government intervention.

What Labor is going to do is to make everything in Australia more expensive and kill what little manufacturing remains by ensuring that input costs including energy and land are high and increasing. When it doesn’t work, if they are in power long enough, they will subsidise their chosen businesses and force Australians to buy from them, which will reduce our standard of living and ensure that those businesses will not export because they will never be competitive.

Here is a reasonable summary of the day: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-18/federal-politics-live-september-18/105785620


In this one, Labor promises to divert agricultural exports to making liquid fuel made from plant and animal oils: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15109181/diesel-petrol-canola-oil-Australia.html

Centrally planned economies ultimately fail.

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LSWCHP

One of my good mates is a genetic engineer who worked at CSIRO for his entire career on doing weird things with plants, including Canola. He is a very, very clever guy.

One of the things he mentioned before he retired was modifying plant material to produce efficient diesel fuel. He said that Australia could be entirely independent of imported diesel fuel using the tech he had worked on. The plant crop he worked on for this was tobacco, but Canola would probably work as well.

I suspect there might be more to the Canola oil fuel announcement than meets the eye.

A Fly In Your Ointment

I hope guys like him make a steam engine powered with canabis sativa (or indica, beggars cannot be choosers). The world would be much happier place and it is 100% renewable. I’d change my profession instantly to a locomotive fire stoker. Would work for food only.

robert2013

It’s certainly possible…but is it cheaper and better?

A fly in your ointment

That bit and also that expanding growth of rapeseed for industrial use reduces land available for food production.

Reus's Large MEMBER

The problem that they are not mentioning is that if you use bio-diesel you void your warranty.

Ramjet

Until the elites kill enough of us useless eaters with highly processed seed oils, biodiesel will not get a look in.

A Fly In Your Ointment

Soo…. we should vote for “not Labour” and the change will come at the next election?
Of course not, welcome to Australia where elections are like Melbourne weather: it you don’t like what you have now, wait for 5 minutes (next elections) and it will get worse.
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Nepal recently showed us how governments are supposed to be changed when governments become naughty and they do it for too long. Unfortunately the whole Nepalese adventure was a Light Brown colour revolution but Nepalese plebs have now practiced the method of “dis-electing” current thieves in power and can do it against colour revolutionaries in due time. Fingers crossed.
When Oi-Ois learn the same skills as Nepalese, perhaps things will begin to be less depressive. In the mean time local lamp posts will serve only one function (lighting) of their two built-in functionalities and there will be more hope for long term future in shitholes across the world.

It’s a sad state of affairs if you have to burn buildings down and dozens to be killed to enact political change

Indeed.
Only thing worse than that is not knowing (or looking other way) that this is the only way a political change can come. Like in this pond

Canada has significantly cut immigration levels albeit only for a 3 year period without imploding the entire democratic system as a means to do so.

Canada?
It is probably the only place with less hope than this island.
Do you really think they cut the immigration because plebs wanted it?

the arborist

The Indian Question

For those who didn’t see this on my previously posted youtube link before it was banned, here’s the Rumble link:

https://rumble.com/v6yp9hc-the-indian-question-flightformsyracuse.html

It’s probably a bit too gen z hectic for some but I think it’s worth the effort.

A Fly In Your Ointment

similis simili gaudet
The video should come with a warning: “may reduce one’s IQ to well below single digit levels”

the arborist

It only works on you.

A fly in your ointment

I agree, no doubt.
It would work on you too in the same way but it needs some traces of IQ to be able to reduce it.
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LOL, love your work.

Stewie

LOL – they faked their moon landing!

the arborist

The Indian moon landing is as real as their gods, hygiene, sanitation systems, educational qualifications, culinary excellence, driving skills, coding ability, safety standards, honesty, etc.

Fakest people on the planet. Without fakery and poor imitation, they have nothing. Well… nothing more than immense piles of shit and endless waves of substandard people.

Reus's Large MEMBER

With all the climate hysteria in mind, I had a quick look at the figures and found some interesting facts

If you exclude exports like coal and gas, Australia only produces 40 million tons of CO2 locally, but it absorbs around 160 million tons, so in reality we are way past net zero

In the last year India’s increase in CO2 was greater than our total contribution including exports.

If the hysterical climate freaks really cared they would be protesting China and India who contribute to most of the c02 emissions

Currently C02 is 0.039% of the atmosphere, if it drops below 0.03 all plant life dies, it has been 10 times higher before and was about 4x higher when the dino’s were running around

The earth is 5% greener than 20 years ago, more CO2 means more plants

the arborist

Racist!

LSWCHP

I’m in Scotland, and visited the Glasgow museum today.

It has a dinosaur section, and repeated exhibits pointed out that the Scottish climate had changed massively over the years. At one point, the world was much warmer and Scotland was covered in lush forests and grasslands, teeming with wildlife. At another time, it was much colder, and covered with ice. It another time, it was all underwater

All of this happened, without any contribution by people producing carbon.

I noticed this, and wondered how the lunatics running the show can acknowledge these things to be true, and simultaneously waffle on about the climate emergency.

Also, every second exhibit had some acknowledgement of white privilege due to slavery, colonialism the need to be anti-racist yadder yadder.

There as one sign that stated that African cities had been vibrant and wealthy centres of science and commerce before the arrival of white oppressors. This was such Wakandan nonsense that I actually guffawed put lout when I read it.

The whole vibe of the place was malignant and insane. When we left I mentioned this to my Missus, and she said she’d seen a sign stating that the museum was going through a project to recast the entire collection through a lens of colonialism, slavery and racism.

These peiple hate themselves, and they hate us.

Ramjet

Places like Scotland and Ireland spent centuries fighting the English to preserve their identity only to flush it away in a mere two generations.

And of all places Scotland being the birthplace of the Industrial Revolution. Invention of the steam engine, basic economic theory and actuarial science from Scotland. Was there a sign anywhere for that?

robert2013

Lesson learned: museums in countries with high immigration should be avoided. FYI most of the British Museum exists in Google maps in 360 degree photospheres. With a high res vr headset, there’s basically no point going to see the original.

Stewie

“These peiple hate themselves, and they hate us.”

Their foot soldiers are mainly over-empathetic women, neurotically worrying about what other people will think of them if they don’t acknowledge the (mainly) invented historical crimes, that the jewish corporatocracy works so hard to create as a mindset in their empty heads.

“It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy.”

1984 – George Orwell

Just look at the 10-1 response by bigots who were stupid enough to film themselves celebrating Charlie Kirks demise:

https://x.com/ClassicStewie/status/1966037664387453414

Basically its a psyop (by people who do hate us, for cultural reasons) so these NPC’s “guilt chips” are more easily activated, and their raw, ungoverned, unthinking emptions can be unleashed in any direction they wish.

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OzCuck

The last time I went to the Sydney museum it was like that. Apart from the dinosaur skeletons and fossils it all seemed to be woke shit and this was ages ago probably 15 years ago.

A year or two ago I went to the art gallery that was pretty good had euro paintings from as early as the maybe the 1400s and this huge one of Rorkes Drift.

Surprisingly there’s still this very tall and intimidating statue of Governor Phillip near the Botanical gardens.

Ramjet

For everything, I say “follow the money”. You have to see that our billionaire class has massive investments in windmills and other ordinarily useless projects and they want returns. Fortunately for them, our politicians are up their with brethren in New Delhi (and other corrupt cesspools) for their willingness to enrich themselves at the expense of the peasantry. Reservation of gas would be cheaper and more efficient, but two industries win being gas exporters and investors in ordinarily useless windmill projects. Politicians get to inflict their ideology and get lucrative board seats when retired.

stagmal

plant life existed in abundance long before the first human being ever existed, let alone started burning coal and wood

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robert2013

Bacterial life existed in abundance long before the first plants ever did, let alone started flowering and growing bark.

stagmal

i got wood right now

Ramjet

If you want your future look of Australia, Melbourne is what it will look like:

  • Crime where anything of any value that is not bolted down is stolen
  • Traffic jams all of the time
  • Horrible and angry people
  • Corruption is rife (see government projects and the lack of care about it)
  • Market based sector servicing property or government contracts
  • No real wage increases
  • No tangible export industry

The other states should start preparing for this dystopian hellhole as it is coming their way

The90kwbeast

So in other words much like a miscellaneous South America country

OzCuck

A lot of Melbournian males I’ve met have had a temper. Don’t know why. City wide small man syndrome or something. Or something to do with the worst convicts eventually moving up from tassie.

Ramjet

Not just males with bad tempers. Seems to be everyone.

Ramjet

For my above point about corruption, the only difference between EZFKA and other well known corrupt places is that the lower value economic units here are not corrupt (we don’t bribe police or other officials), the highest vale economic units are completely corrupt.

the arborist

That difference is rapidly diminishing.

The90kwbeast

Yes a another 30 years of mass asian immigration from some of the lowest trust countries in the world should do the trick

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Cmon, Melbourne was a shithole since the place was inhabitated by organised immigration few centuries ago

4/10 troll

A Fly In Your Ointment

that comment was supposed to go to the previous response on Melbourne.

A Fly In Your Ointment

To flush the bile from retard videos like the one posted above (which should be banned on absence of taste alone), here’s one which is informative and intellectual.
Now the video is only a recent post on this attention seeking YT channel (hence the false attention sipeeking title), actual interview is from about 2017 and it is solid gold for anyone trying to understand China’s rise.
Some interviews don’t age well. This one is like a well aged South African wine.

Ronnie Chan interview by two western msm personalities
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M3VcACSgtSw

A Fly In Your Ointment

Apologies, I found original video from 2018.

»Neue Weltunordnung« mit Ronnie Chan

(Note the previous link’s inverted video in cesspool of YT click chase to avoid copuright)

Yes but will it be sustained. Middle income trap and massive debt to GDP come to mind as two serious issues.

A Fly In Your Ointment

Will it be sustained?
SO far (8yrs later), Ronnie’s assessments hold (check the bit on EVs).
Slopes model of economy is similar but not the same as western capitalism/techno-feudalism. Western models applied to slopes economy failed to predict anything with much accuracy.
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The Llewdo and Bleato of EmBee kept saying “middle income trap” since about forever, decades of claiming slopes are just about 18 months from a collapse. Their favorite reference was the loony Salivatore Baboon (“US$ will be the eternal king”) to support that claim. Just the fact that this band of morons claimed slopes will fall into the MI trap is a good indicator they will not.
Their GDP is not the same as the bloated GDP of high immigration cuntries. They produce real tangible goods probably the most per capita of any country.

Yes but the rise of China is also backed by a massive rise in debt levels within the country within the last 20 years. It will be interesting how much longer debt can continue to grow the underlying economy and especially with the backdrop of a now aging working population.

Yes, the US and other nations have also seen debts expand too but nothing like China.

It will sure be interesting to watch.

A Fly In Your Ointment

Just to add the perspective:

  1. Joe has $5mil debt and 5 properties with 90% or more debt on each
  2. Jim has $5 mil debt buying a machine which produces various parts for multiple industries.

$5 mil is $5 mil, eh?
in this little pedo island, Joe is in better position. elsewhere….

stagmal

middle income trap imo is just middle IQ trap, i think china is getting out of the middle income trap but i think its gdp (ppp) will roughly reach about 2/3rd maybe the u.s level and stay there, assuming that resource constraints don’t prevent that (but those will presumably affect the whole world)

A Fly In Your Ointment

I agreee.
Also, smaller nations easily achieve high gdp in any metric desired simply because the smaller numbers of plebs.There are over 1bil slopes.
If there are 4x more slopes than seppos, slopes reaching the US gdp will mean Slopelands has 4x the US economy. That will be impossible unless the world has, i’m estimating, over 20bil people
Besides, gdp and even ppp is not an indication of a good life neither is a metric we all must chase at any cost. Except for local plebs and politicians.- for them gdp is everything.

stagmal

slopesville already overtook america in gdp (ppp) terms a long time ago, i should of specified per capita. china will get to about 2/3rds the u.s amount maybe sometime mid century and will bottom out from there or so, but pop decline will be hitting so the gdp differential in absolute terms between u.s- china may shrink due to that

A Fly In Your Ointment

In my view, the biggest risk for Slopelandia is too rapid decline of the Westies (i.e. next 10-20yrs). They need them going only until rest of the world rises to be able to afford more.

stagmal

if it was absolute emissions per country and not per capita emissions that mattered, why not just make every single person their own country. then every country would emit absolutely nothing, and nobody would have to do anything to mitigate climate change

robert2013

Sometimes you’re really very strange!

robert2013

Hastie on Australian manufacturing:

https://www.instagram.com/p/DOx5-bVkeQa/

IMO Hastie is all about defence. He’s ex SAS. He wants Australia to be able to make complex things because if we can’t, we are defenceless. He says that high energy costs are part of the reason for manufacturing’s decline. He is right. His mistake was to use cars as the main example. At no point did he say let’s make cars in Australia again, yet that is what the legacy media decided he meant.

Judith Sloane on Hastie:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AustralianPolitics/comments/1nnx68d/bring_back_aussie_carmaking_give_us_a_brake_mr/

Sloane is concerned by the drift of politicans like Hastie to apparent protecionism. What she fails to do is realise that the “conservative” label is self decieving. The politicians calling for protectionism are patriots. Free trade destroyed our defensive capablilty. As individuals, we can’t all be the best fighter, no matter how much we train. But we need enough capability to do some serious damage so that we aren’t the first to be taken out.

Bernard Keane appearst to have cribbed some of his ideas from Judith Sloane. He accuses Hastie of being anti women by being pro “male” manufacturing and denigrating “flat white” makers. Keane is a leftist propaganist. Sickening.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2025/09/24/labor-andrew-hastie-car-manufacturing-protectionism/

The90kwbeast

Andrew is making some of the right moves here. Either the LNP reform as a true centre right soft nationalist party or fuck off into oblivion in 15 years time.

Ley is a dead woman walking.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/24/nampinjimpa-price-endorses-andrew-hastie-as-future-liberal-leader

The90kwbeast

If the Australian is anything to go by about 70% of boomer comments in favour of Hastie on every article

What is a single thing Ley has been effective with in the 4 months of her opposition leadership despite Albo having blunder after blunder on his achievements list

Ramjet

Let the LNP die like the Tories in the UK. The conservatives here being the LNP conserved nothing. All of the boomer conservatives moan about debt and deficits but the younger conservative leaning want cheaper home, available jobs and lower cost of living. They will not get anything remotely like this with from the boomer conservatives. Let the LNP wither away and be replaced by something that might actually represent the people.

Ramjet

Yeah, Keane would hate to see deplorables having decent jobs and making things that we can be proud of.

Ramjet

You are not the first person to say that Melbourne is becoming like Johannesburg. But there is one big difference you didn’t mention: how good is the coffee in Melbourne? Bet Johannesburg doesn’t have coffee that good!

Johannesburg is the richest city on its continent, Melbourne, well, it can just pretend it is important.

See my comment above that anything of value not bolted down is a potential theft target. The people of Melbourne will get rude shocks as their insurance premiums will shoot up ensuring that everyone gets to foot the bill for the crime wave. Virtue signalling has its cost.

A Fly In Your Ointment

Bet Johannesburg doesn’t have coffee that good!

Not that coffee in Aus is bad (pretty much same everywhere), coffee in Joburg is what Italians would call comparable to their obsession

A Fly In Your Ointment

It.cannot.be.that.thingo.

OzCuck
OzCuck

Usually gets the healthiest people.

A Fly In Your Ointment

true, slobs cardiac activity is too low to push them over the edge, i guess.

OzCuck

They are such a fine tuned machine any foreign and toxic matter hurts them more. Like giving a kid a cigarette or a beer.

OzCuck

Silver kangaroo nearly $80. Wtf.

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