It’s WHO the 0.1% are that matters. Always the who.
Yes, yes, that is thinking the EZFKA way!
The detestable 99% mustn’t be permitted to impinge upon the delectable 1%!
Just saddle them with a few more costs.
“All life is risk…
Delaying for years and then doing it doesn’t reduce the risk, it just increases the costs.”
People are so afraid of dying that they’re not living.
And they don’t want you to live either.
So what’s the real underlying issue here, do youse reckon?
for me it seems like it’s the compulsion element – the fact that the government has actually created this binary choice, where a binary choice would otherwise not exist.
In an alternate universe, there is no destruction of life for the 99.9%, nor the coercion to be vaccinated.
The underlying issue is the failure of the media to inform the public, and indeed into manipulating public opinion in order to influence outcome, which at best unnecessary and at worst downright dangerous.
This. And a more malevolent globalist push to have the CCP model implemented everywhere.
Have said this a million times, but the long term goal is social credit scores under a technocracy. COVID is being used as a trojan horse. I don’t wear the masks around town, no one says anything. Partly defiance, partly exploitation of the demoralisation of pacified Australians.
macro really love the mainstream consensus on covid don’t they!
at first they latched onto it because they saw it as their johnny come lately saviour at making all of their economic prognostications come true, but that never eventuated so now they want it gone because the bubble is now their best mate. so take the jab pal, or no anything for you
i’m personally baffled and horrified at the number of people in my generation and younger who are scared witless over this virus, and still — the evidence has been in for a long time that it almost does nothing to anyone under the age of 55, let alone under the age of 30. i think it’s more deadly than the flu for young ppl and yet we’re the generation MOST scared of getting it, while even much more susceptible boomers are mocking its alleged deadliness. we don’t lockdown the economy every flu season so i guess it’s a case of #onlycoviddeathsmatter
covid has been the hill MB has died upon imo, they’ve lost a lot of their most interesting readers/commenters due to them becoming a mainstream media shadow, now it’s increasingly echo chamber central with the remaining dissenters masked (no joke intended) and muzzled
I had this conversation with my sister regarding the Time article from the other week where they basically admitted that a shadowy group of Billionaires, Tech bro’s and the media formed a conspiracy to get rid of Trump.
Me: “If Trump had been attacking and undermining the system then surely he wouldn’t have gotten back in?”
Sis: “Separation of power between state and federal governments.”
Me: “So change existing laws weeks before polling date, knowing well in advance that your Federal teams elections strategy is relying on it is a true separation of powers?”
Sis: “But there was a pandemic!”
Me: “A pandemic which has a 99.99% survivability rate and whose median age of death of its victims is around 86 vs the median life expectancy of 82?”
Sis: “Right… so the global pandemic is a democratic conspiracy too?”
Me: “With all due respect, prior to me informing you, you thought the fatality rate was around 10%… yet the media beat up had no influence over other people’s behavior and attitude towards it and the need to hurriedly change rules and laws?
As for a ‘conspiracy’ I just started this convo with a Time article outlining how a cabal of big business and big media and shadowy billionaires acted to influence the outcome of the election…. which sort of sounds like a conspiracy to me”
Two things: First my Sis is a savvy, highly educated woman and CFO probably earning close to half a mill a year, and yet the media so failed in its duty of informing her that she thought the fatality rate was 10% vs 0.1%.
Second, I’m just as ruthless arguing with my family as I am with anyone else.
i reckon a lot of the supposed “long covid” hysteria is hypochondria drummed up by the media scaremongering too. when you tell people who just had some mild virus that what they had was in fact the second coming of the black death it’s going to scare them into thinking that they’re still sick long after the last of the virus has exited their system. humans have a remarkable ability to convince themselves they’re sick when they’re not, especially if everybody around sez they are or should be.
I’d agree – there is a fair component of that. Hysteria is probably a better word and part of it comes about from filling the media with over emoters rather than logic dwellers more interest in the truth.
Chad Thundercock: “Mrs Thundercock booted me out of the house again….”
Chad Thundercock: *looks at the ground sheepishly* “Uh huh… the TRT and viagra doesn’t seem to be working…”
Stewie: “Ohhhhh….lemme guess….you want me to come around again and plow your misses… what this will be the third time this week”
Chad Thundercock: “It is just I love hiding in the cupboard and stroking my limp dick while I watch you plow my wife. She moans so much louder with you than when I try to pleasure her with with my micropenis.”
Stewie: “Look, if you promise to stay in the cupboard this time I will think about it.”
Chad Thundercock: “Stewie…”
Chad Thundercock: “Do you think when you finish her off, you could… you know…. pretend my asshole is her pussy.”
Stewie “Sorry Chad – that’s not gunna happen.”
***Well what do you know Chad – being an Admin means I can edit comments!! Big improvement over your crude attempt, but hey I will admit you laid down the foundations for me to build over – Stewie ***
lmao who is dis guy
He’s one of the Trolls who use to haunt MB, Maggot and Terol, were some of the names he use to go by.
For some reason he took a dislike to me, so when I was held in higher esteem there I use to feign faux outrage over his lame slurs and get his trolling account banned. It worked for a while.
Now I just live rent free in his head, which mainly appears to be filled with fantasies of big black cock and whoever he imagines my missus to be.
That said he did inspire some of my best work….
Here is the Time article if by chance you haven’t come across it…. yet another of my comments that was deleted
” they’ve lost a lot of their most interesting readers/commenters due to them becoming a mainstream media shadow”
I think they lost a lot of them by banning them from posting. Including paid subscribers.
have they really banned paid subscribers before? that’s a super dog act
Yeh Coming got banned until a few days before his subscription ran out (allegedly).
Poor form, if true IMO.
I have no evidence of it, but quite a few regular posters including subscribers just went completely silent, as I did when I got banned as a tight arse.
I think a good number of those that went silent just bought a house and so felt no compulsion to engage in the fruitless bear-narrative that MB was superglued to.
A few will have been banned, I’m sure.
lol Dr X got banned on macrobusiness like 7 months ago for saying that, amongst other things, covid could go airbourne making it almost impossible to fully eradicate
now look at where we’re at now
somebody find that homie and get him here pronto
Yeah – I had some big disagreements with DoctorX, but at the same time I appreciated his insights. His being banned was another loss to MB.
Yeah, I wish DoctorX would surface here.
Whether you agreed with him or not, he clearly was a clear thinker, not just a surface thinker.
I’d like a lot of the posters from a few years ago to surface here.
Stephen morris is the one that comes to mind but there would be many more i can;t think of at the moment.
‘phil’ was a really good one
I’ve been on MB since at least 2012 and never bothered to stump up to subscribe. I must have made at least 1000 profiles on there by now lol. Have always said I’d buy a 10 year subscription when they got their housing crash prediction right…
Bitcoin is again on it’s way to zero, apparently.
I’d been meaning to do a piece on BTC, maybe this is the occasion!
Do it – I wanna Troll !!!
David Karen-Smith is becoming increasingly shrill and adopting an authoritarian, fascist bent no doubt inspired and emboldened by the woke left’s deplorable tactics.
Yep when he was censoring comments that didn’t suit his narrative I had a blow up calling him a c-nut and calling him out. He posted that one and played the victim, the few users including reusa that briefly saw it found it amusing.
I don’t know of many websites where it’s considered profitable to threaten your customer base with a ban for minor transgressions or controversial opinions.
Chris Becker brings that place down as well.
Becker is the Macrobusiness paper weight. The Macro Afternoon post simply serves as the MB community forum for all the shut ins who like to socialise there in the evenings. Leith could post a summary of his previous nights gaming experience and he’d probably generate 10 * the amount of posts and user activity. The Macro Afternoon comments was where imho a lot of the aggressive illiberal progressive dog piling that I found was increasingly taking place in the MB comments section originated. IMHO the obnoxious views, insults and put downs are often tacitly accepted in respect of noxious posters like W@ffle, Mig, etc, all of which are fomented on that Afternoon Macro page. Frankly those guys have been allowed to run amok, simply because their political views align with the moderator’s and it has driven away many of the more conservative posters who have interesting yet disagreeable views. It is a classic example of ‘Repressive Tolerance’.
becker seems alright, i’ve never had any run ins with him really though i could be wrong. seems like a background figure who just keeps the site running. personally dls has always had it out for me, he’s banned me multiple times to the point where i dont care about looking at MB anymore. i stoppde browsing it a couple of days ago after my last ban and am not going back.
the problem is they just keep banning people — and the site itself is primitive as hell, the login function often doesnt work, you cant post images in the comments, there’s no comment history archive for members, no karma, etc. its running on a more primitive comment section than what was around in 2004, they just dont care about making it a fun place to be.
I have wondered about the site layout of MB for a while.
It seems setting up this site took all of a few days, and the layour, colour, comments sections, are by far better than MB.
I’m honestly interested in the opportunity to create an internal economy in a website and discussion forum. It’s now possible to issue none fungible tokens on some blockchains and transact with them for fractions of a cent – it would be relatively easy to set up an internal economy say within MB where members would be issued a heap of “MB” tokens to spend, liking both the authors and other commentators posts – it would become very easy to see where the economic value is being generated in terms of interactions. The tokens and all transactions on them would be next to nothing in cost, yet they’d drive heaps of user interaction.
My only question is why blockchain? What benefit does it offer for the costs? What you want to do has already been implemented in essence on multiple sites with a DB back end with far less complexity.
It doesn’t require you to maintain a DB or store the data – check out https://powping.com/
It is no more complicated than any existing forum, and has ability to tip and reward both authors and commentators.
I’m looking at printing a heap of EZFKA dollary-doo’s just for the fun of it.
Stewie, I think they already have someone in charge of printing EZFKA dollars-doos.
You’ll have to challenge Lowe to a duel if you want to take his place! 🤣
The MB crew place no value at all in the comments or community it attracted. This is clear by their frequent and partisan use of the banhammer, along with the attitude to site layout as you say.
In my personal experience, I’m happy to agree to disagree with anyone on the site, and am happy to listen if they can present some sort of argument. An ignore function would probably help some people but I really doubt I would have used it on anyone.
Banning people from posting is what is driving the interesting people away in my opinion. Every time I get a ban I just leave for a while and might go check if I’m unbanned if something of particular interest happens. I could create a new account as others do, and I did once but really, if they don’t want me their then I am happy to leave, especially as the quality of the commenters deteriorates.
PEACHY: maybe an ignore function? From someone who doesn’t have to implement and wouldn’t even use it:)
“The MB crew place no value at all in the comments or community it attracted. This is clear by their frequent and partisan use of the banhammer, along with the attitude to site layout as you say.”
This is another place where they are completely misguided. The comments and community were the greater part of the value. But they thought it was all them…
There was a clear neo-con leverage the rage business plan put in place about six-months to a year before the first *whisperings* of a fund were being spread. And they followed it play-by-play. Still do today. Saw it all coming. Paid attention to each change. Never commented on the intent of any of them – knew that would result in instant banning; do not mess with a finance guy’s revenue stream. And that’s what it was all about. Leveraging members into fund holders and commenters into members who would jump on the fund if it performed. And making the comments more acceptable to a wider audience of future readers for the same reason. Sorry, did I say readers? I meant investors! Grandma Dora ain’t gonna stump up 200k to invest in a fund associated with comments belittling her favourite snowflake. Sorrrrrry. I mean grandson.
They run a business. So fair play. It’s not a sheltered workshop oriented charity or day care centre for people to drop off their comprehensively infirm elderly into of an evening. *waves at skip*.
Anywho, it’s not new, unpredictable, or that hard to understand – every business has to make the same decisions. Some of MB’s are just like Facebook’s recent ones if you need a comparative model for perspective.
The most recent and possibly final change being to gunna’s profile. Which I thought would have been untouchable.
I suspect you may be right here, I only really noticed the ever increasing usage of the boomhammer given I always valued the commentary below the articles far more highly than the few lines of critique the authors felt the need to add to each cut/paste job.
The 2 changes would have gone hand in hand though.
They did make nice news aggregation service though, wonder if they would have to pay for it same as facebook/google if the new “regime” goes ahead?
Yes and no. Yes – it’s better. No – it certainly didn’t take days of labour.
DLS is disagreeable – but i’ve never had an issue with that, it would be hypocritical if I did. I’ve been happy to attack his arguments until the cows come home (where I find flaws) but I limit it to the argument, he ignored me most of the time anyhow. I’ve never really had an issue with his personality… he’s a little thin skinned about criticisms of MB, fair enough, it is his baby. Becker though…
@Stewie I have no issue with DLS. I like his analysis and his passion. Doesn’t get it right all the time, but no-one does. He has been the tip of the spear on China for mine, which is sorely needed among all the bullshit SBS/ABC kowtowing. I subscribe because their immigration and international student analysis is really good and that justifies the cost IMO. I’m also a macroeconomic noob who’s trying to learn stuff, so I get educational value out of it. I personally subscribe to them and Michael West. Have to give them a lot of credit, 3 years ago you couldn’t mention immigration or international students at all in any negative light, they’ve basically pushed the overton window by themselves.
My main criticism of the site is that the core demographic of the commentariat seems to overwhelmingly be Generation X upper middle class progressives, pulling each other off on having identical views on everything. Half the time it just descends into generic LNP bashing and romanticising about Labor and the ABC from 30 years ago. I’ve also had others (eg that McPaddy tossbag) directly go to the censor (who happens to be Becker and Gunna as far as I can tell) for mildly controversial but factual opinions, because apparently it hurt their feelings. Pathetic.
I will add that whoever is writing the Friday Strayan satire is based AF and it’s the the best satire I’ve read in Australia. Shits all over Betoota.
“Have to give them a lot of credit, 3 years ago you couldn’t mention immigration or international students at all in any negative light, they’ve basically pushed the overton window by themselves.”
i’d like to believe this but i can’t see much evidence for it. political discourse in australia mostly seems to spin its wheels — we’re going to see a resumption in immigration when covid passes (not long now) and it’ll be back to business as usual. EZFKA politics are defined by their eternal stagnation — look at the banking royal commission, absolutely NOTHING came of it, it was a farcical waste of time.
also am i the only one who thinks betoota is lame af, its like a poor mans onion 15 years too late to the game.
Hm, IMO yes and no. They’ll try resuming opening the gates, but the pull factors aren’t there as much as before. There’s been spruiking on warp 10 everywhere, but that’s because they’re all hurting economically. I do agree that the EZFKA crowd led by Trigaboff, Lowy, Gandel et al will do everything they can for BAU. We shall see I guess, i’m not taking copium by any means.
Betoota is fucking shit. Basically a couple of ex-Fairfax journos that are writing vapid lefty satire. Core audience of cosmopolitan, inner city wankers from Sydney and Melbourne who all vote Labor/Greens. The guy who founded it, Piers Grove, is a really interesting character and would be the type who would take a trip semi-regularly to Thailand/Philippines if you know what I mean. Problem is, a right wing equivalent Australian Babylon Bee type satire site would get shut down in a nanosecond by the regulatory environment and pearl clutchers here.
look at the banking royal commission, absolutely NOTHING came of it, it was a farcical waste of time.
That is the story of every RC. If the government wanted to do something, they’d DO SOMETHING. It would probably be inept and have a whole heap of unintended consequences but they’d get it done.
You have an RC when you want to look like you are doing something, but really want to delay until everyone forgets about it and not have to do anything.
which I find hilarious and naieve – MB calls for an RC into everything.
I called them out constantly on that one, until we got: ttps://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2021/02/the-strayan-coalition-calls-royal-commission-into-royal-commissions/
“Friday Strayan satire is based AF and it’s the the best satire I’ve read in Australia. Shits all over Betoota.”
I couldn’t help but feel their royal commission into royal commisions bit was “inspired” by my continual pointing out of the folly of them every time they called for an RC into ______.
“My main criticism of the site is that the core demographic of the commentariat seems to overwhelmingly be Generation X upper middle class progressives, pulling each other off on having identical views on everything.”
That pretty much sums up how I came to view the place.
Far out you’re a knob. Whinge about censoring and then censor someone here. Grow up “smooth brain”, you’re a goose
You blokes all seem to need a hug!
Good to see peachistan is, as pennywise sung, alive and well
And you need to be less of a patronising, cosmopolitan tossbag Swampy.
But I guess someone has to give Sweeper an intellectual reacharound.
This place will be censoring and handing out bans real soon. Stewie needs many hugs but will refuse them and just start swinging that ban hammer. How many of us will end up banned from MB and EZFKA? Lol
The only way the cartoon on this article could have been any better is by being drawn in colour.
Blue colour for the button on the left, red on the right.
(would need transposing in certain markets)